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		<title>By: Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 15:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, like i said, it was more of a &quot;frustrated&quot; idea than anything. I was thinking along very desperate lines and just dummy-spitting basically, because of my horrible year for Captain selections so far. Though i&#039;m sure i&#039;m not the only one that&#039;s had a shocking run.

So with no Ablett or Swan, i&#039;ll just need to back the cattle i&#039;ve got and hope they can improve from here on in i guess. Barlow isn&#039;t a bad Captain choice, though i haven&#039;t had the coconuts to give him the &#039;C&#039; yet. :)
Might start looking outside of the midfield a bit and start considering blokes like Hodge or Didak that have been pretty consistent thus far, and are capable of whopping scores.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, like i said, it was more of a &#8220;frustrated&#8221; idea than anything. I was thinking along very desperate lines and just dummy-spitting basically, because of my horrible year for Captain selections so far. Though i&#8217;m sure i&#8217;m not the only one that&#8217;s had a shocking run.</p>
<p>So with no Ablett or Swan, i&#8217;ll just need to back the cattle i&#8217;ve got and hope they can improve from here on in i guess. Barlow isn&#8217;t a bad Captain choice, though i haven&#8217;t had the coconuts to give him the &#8216;C&#8217; yet. :)<br />
Might start looking outside of the midfield a bit and start considering blokes like Hodge or Didak that have been pretty consistent thus far, and are capable of whopping scores.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 13:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a bit behind on the discussion. I was referring to your very first post on the topic, where you were quoting stats about how many teams Barlow is in.

If you&#039;re worried about a captain option, don&#039;t trade Barlow out. Make him captain. I reckon there&#039;s crazier things you could try, if you&#039;re not happy with what you&#039;ve got and can&#039;t afford those premium captain choices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a bit behind on the discussion. I was referring to your very first post on the topic, where you were quoting stats about how many teams Barlow is in.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re worried about a captain option, don&#8217;t trade Barlow out. Make him captain. I reckon there&#8217;s crazier things you could try, if you&#8217;re not happy with what you&#8217;ve got and can&#8217;t afford those premium captain choices.</p>
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		<title>By: Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 11:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It wasn&#039;t just about being unique for the sake of being unique, it was seeing the benefits, if any, in having an edge over my opponents in doing such a trade and more so, having a lock-away captain for the year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It wasn&#8217;t just about being unique for the sake of being unique, it was seeing the benefits, if any, in having an edge over my opponents in doing such a trade and more so, having a lock-away captain for the year.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 11:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In general, I&#039;m not as keen on this whole &#039;unique&#039; thing. What&#039;s the point in being unique if you&#039;re missing out on the best? It&#039;d be unique to not have Pods, but it would also be detrimental.

Barlow won&#039;t score in the top six mids, but trading him out because not having him would be unique makes no sense to me. It&#039;s always good when you nail an uncommon selection, and I&#039;m prone to those in my starting squad, but I can never get me head around unique for the sake of unique. You can gain 1000 points by chipping away less than 85 points per week on any team, so I don&#039;t see why you&#039;d need to be unique for the sake of unique. That&#039;s completely achievable with a team full of common selections, because by sheer force of mathematics there isn&#039;t a huge chance your team will be the same as those you&#039;re chasing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In general, I&#8217;m not as keen on this whole &#8216;unique&#8217; thing. What&#8217;s the point in being unique if you&#8217;re missing out on the best? It&#8217;d be unique to not have Pods, but it would also be detrimental.</p>
<p>Barlow won&#8217;t score in the top six mids, but trading him out because not having him would be unique makes no sense to me. It&#8217;s always good when you nail an uncommon selection, and I&#8217;m prone to those in my starting squad, but I can never get me head around unique for the sake of unique. You can gain 1000 points by chipping away less than 85 points per week on any team, so I don&#8217;t see why you&#8217;d need to be unique for the sake of unique. That&#8217;s completely achievable with a team full of common selections, because by sheer force of mathematics there isn&#8217;t a huge chance your team will be the same as those you&#8217;re chasing.</p>
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		<title>By: Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 10:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Toby, i think over the course of some heavy thought today and reading everyones valued input, i think doing the Barlow trade this soon would be very much unnecessary.
I finalised my midfield a few weeks ago and was very happy with it at the time, but am now having second-thoughts. Which i guess is what&#039;s prompting me to consider trades such as this.

My mids are, as you asked: Bartel, Boyd, Pendles, Murphy, Gibbs, Barlow.
I picked Bartel and Boyd for their mandatory 100-110 points every week and started Pendles and Murphy with the premise that they could lift their averages to around that mark, also. Gibbs was the final addition to my midfield.
In hindsight, i would&#039;ve much preferred to have started say, Ablett/Swan instead of Bartel and picked a mid-pricer for improvement instead of Murphy, leaving myself potentially 2 or 3 midfield upgrades throughout the year, instead of 1. (Baring in mind Barlow was never picked as a keeper, obviously)

Like you said though, there are 21 other players in my side and i think i will now sensibly shift my attention to upgrading one of Ziebell, Waters or Maguire to a premium this week.

Once again, thanks for your input guys!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Toby, i think over the course of some heavy thought today and reading everyones valued input, i think doing the Barlow trade this soon would be very much unnecessary.<br />
I finalised my midfield a few weeks ago and was very happy with it at the time, but am now having second-thoughts. Which i guess is what&#8217;s prompting me to consider trades such as this.</p>
<p>My mids are, as you asked: Bartel, Boyd, Pendles, Murphy, Gibbs, Barlow.<br />
I picked Bartel and Boyd for their mandatory 100-110 points every week and started Pendles and Murphy with the premise that they could lift their averages to around that mark, also. Gibbs was the final addition to my midfield.<br />
In hindsight, i would&#8217;ve much preferred to have started say, Ablett/Swan instead of Bartel and picked a mid-pricer for improvement instead of Murphy, leaving myself potentially 2 or 3 midfield upgrades throughout the year, instead of 1. (Baring in mind Barlow was never picked as a keeper, obviously)</p>
<p>Like you said though, there are 21 other players in my side and i think i will now sensibly shift my attention to upgrading one of Ziebell, Waters or Maguire to a premium this week.</p>
<p>Once again, thanks for your input guys!</p>
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		<title>By: rembrandt</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 10:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this may be frustrating for the sandilands coaches out there...(M.Harvey @ afl.com.au)

&quot;Sandilands had 36 hit-outs and kicked a goal in Sunday’s clash, but the ruckman had minimal impact around the ground, finishing with 10 possessions.

Harvey said he was aiming to decrease the star big man’s workload. “We’ve been doing that, sort of getting his game time to around 90 per cent. It was up around 98 per cent,” he said. “We’re slowly getting that down. Ideally we’d get that down to 80-85.

“(But) we’ve got a young team that needs a guy like him out there as much as we can.”

I really hope he starts killing the possessions then if he is going to see less game time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this may be frustrating for the sandilands coaches out there&#8230;(M.Harvey @ afl.com.au)</p>
<p>&#8220;Sandilands had 36 hit-outs and kicked a goal in Sunday’s clash, but the ruckman had minimal impact around the ground, finishing with 10 possessions.</p>
<p>Harvey said he was aiming to decrease the star big man’s workload. “We’ve been doing that, sort of getting his game time to around 90 per cent. It was up around 98 per cent,” he said. “We’re slowly getting that down. Ideally we’d get that down to 80-85.</p>
<p>“(But) we’ve got a young team that needs a guy like him out there as much as we can.”</p>
<p>I really hope he starts killing the possessions then if he is going to see less game time.</p>
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		<title>By: Toby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 10:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wilson, i think this is really interesting discussion topic - personally i am of the opinion that it is a luxury trade and not particularly necessary, however i will elaborate why...
Whist yes, when you started the year, Barlow was not anticipated to be a mid-range keeper, but the fact he is has become a huge bonus. One of my biggest mistakes in season 2007 was trading out Matt Priddis (in his breakout year) in the second half of the year, just because i always saw him as a rookie who just scored well. I figured that i would prefer to bring in an elite midfielder with the pick who i could rely upon for greater consistency- i trusted in Scott West who broke down a couple of weeks later. Priddis went on to finish the season with two scores above 150 and averaged well over 100 - scores i would have loved in my side regardless of how many people had him. 
Barlow, regardless of how many people have him is going to average you (a likely) 100 points a game - there are not too many other mids who are going to give you this. It is like thinking of getting rid of Ablett, Goddard or Hodge, all because they are in more than half of the teams in the competition. And whilst i can understand your thoughts, you must remember that you have 21 other players in your team - 100 points per week from Barlow is great, and perhaps you should look to other positions to get your &#039;edge.&#039; Who are your other mids? Do you have any mid-priced underperformers you can offload? 

My second suggestion, if you are still very keen to get rid of him, is perhaps waiting a few weeks. If you look likely of getting into your league finals (and having Barlow certainly won&#039;t work against you here!), this may be the time to consider a different option. Around this time you will know how many injuries you have and how many trades are remaining - this is where you can be a bit more creative and adventurous to get that edge over your opposition. This is where you look at the other 7 teams in your top eight and establish who they have and what premiums they are missing. There may be a chance only 3 of them have Ablett, perhaps Montagna is in only one. Here is where you can then choose the best fit for your team (if trading Barlow is still an option) and using it much more to your advantage. Getting rid of him now won&#039;t change much in the short-term (possibly the difference of 10-20 points a game, which isn&#039;t much!), but perhaps trading him when all the cards are on the table could be a much more calculated move with much better results! Plus, who&#039;s to say that one of your other midfielders doesn&#039;t go down in the next couple of weeks? These things happen!

Hope this helps!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wilson, i think this is really interesting discussion topic &#8211; personally i am of the opinion that it is a luxury trade and not particularly necessary, however i will elaborate why&#8230;<br />
Whist yes, when you started the year, Barlow was not anticipated to be a mid-range keeper, but the fact he is has become a huge bonus. One of my biggest mistakes in season 2007 was trading out Matt Priddis (in his breakout year) in the second half of the year, just because i always saw him as a rookie who just scored well. I figured that i would prefer to bring in an elite midfielder with the pick who i could rely upon for greater consistency- i trusted in Scott West who broke down a couple of weeks later. Priddis went on to finish the season with two scores above 150 and averaged well over 100 &#8211; scores i would have loved in my side regardless of how many people had him.<br />
Barlow, regardless of how many people have him is going to average you (a likely) 100 points a game &#8211; there are not too many other mids who are going to give you this. It is like thinking of getting rid of Ablett, Goddard or Hodge, all because they are in more than half of the teams in the competition. And whilst i can understand your thoughts, you must remember that you have 21 other players in your team &#8211; 100 points per week from Barlow is great, and perhaps you should look to other positions to get your &#8216;edge.&#8217; Who are your other mids? Do you have any mid-priced underperformers you can offload? </p>
<p>My second suggestion, if you are still very keen to get rid of him, is perhaps waiting a few weeks. If you look likely of getting into your league finals (and having Barlow certainly won&#8217;t work against you here!), this may be the time to consider a different option. Around this time you will know how many injuries you have and how many trades are remaining &#8211; this is where you can be a bit more creative and adventurous to get that edge over your opposition. This is where you look at the other 7 teams in your top eight and establish who they have and what premiums they are missing. There may be a chance only 3 of them have Ablett, perhaps Montagna is in only one. Here is where you can then choose the best fit for your team (if trading Barlow is still an option) and using it much more to your advantage. Getting rid of him now won&#8217;t change much in the short-term (possibly the difference of 10-20 points a game, which isn&#8217;t much!), but perhaps trading him when all the cards are on the table could be a much more calculated move with much better results! Plus, who&#8217;s to say that one of your other midfielders doesn&#8217;t go down in the next couple of weeks? These things happen!</p>
<p>Hope this helps!!</p>
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		<title>By: Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 10:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks guys, your input is very much appreciated. I do see pros and cons for both sides of the argument which makes it very tough, but great food for thought. (as we love to say on this site!) ;)

The &quot;popular vs. unique&quot; argument will go on forever i think. I guess i tend to swing on the unique side a bit more when picking my team but by the same token i can see why popular players are popular. If you at your field of players and take away the names on the screen, for example (Ablett, Swan etc.) and you&#039;re still getting 120-140 from them, regardless of who it is and regardless of the fact that 160,000 other people might have that player, too.

Greg, to give you a brief idea, i have 10 trades left and envisage 1 more forward upgrade and 1 potentially 2 more defender upgrades. So calculating that i would have to double-trade along the way, i would really only be leaving myself 4-5 trades for injuries, which is a little worrying.

The Barlow trade would definitely be a luxury trade, and not entirely necessary. More like a frustration trade, if you like! ;)
So if i can get my team into a good position come finals and can spare a trade or 2, i don&#039;t see the Barlow trade as a bad thing either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks guys, your input is very much appreciated. I do see pros and cons for both sides of the argument which makes it very tough, but great food for thought. (as we love to say on this site!) ;)</p>
<p>The &#8220;popular vs. unique&#8221; argument will go on forever i think. I guess i tend to swing on the unique side a bit more when picking my team but by the same token i can see why popular players are popular. If you at your field of players and take away the names on the screen, for example (Ablett, Swan etc.) and you&#8217;re still getting 120-140 from them, regardless of who it is and regardless of the fact that 160,000 other people might have that player, too.</p>
<p>Greg, to give you a brief idea, i have 10 trades left and envisage 1 more forward upgrade and 1 potentially 2 more defender upgrades. So calculating that i would have to double-trade along the way, i would really only be leaving myself 4-5 trades for injuries, which is a little worrying.</p>
<p>The Barlow trade would definitely be a luxury trade, and not entirely necessary. More like a frustration trade, if you like! ;)<br />
So if i can get my team into a good position come finals and can spare a trade or 2, i don&#8217;t see the Barlow trade as a bad thing either.</p>
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		<title>By: joker</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 10:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t agree**</description>
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		<title>By: joker</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 10:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can agree with the reasoning to trade out Barlow Greg. I understand that a certain amount of trades were set aside for upgrades but there is also an amount set aside for injuries which more often then not isnt enough. Looking at it right now Barlow is averaging 105 whilst swan is average 115. If you do the math, say we traded out Barlow this week, the net point gain would be 10*12= 120 points over the season, costing rougly 100k. With 100k, this week you could upgrade maguire avg 75 for gilbert who avg 100, actually that costs 110k but still. Net point gain 25*12= 300 points over the season. I understand my example is just that, an example which may have no relevance to the situation but it still shows how the trade could be better used elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can agree with the reasoning to trade out Barlow Greg. I understand that a certain amount of trades were set aside for upgrades but there is also an amount set aside for injuries which more often then not isnt enough. Looking at it right now Barlow is averaging 105 whilst swan is average 115. If you do the math, say we traded out Barlow this week, the net point gain would be 10*12= 120 points over the season, costing rougly 100k. With 100k, this week you could upgrade maguire avg 75 for gilbert who avg 100, actually that costs 110k but still. Net point gain 25*12= 300 points over the season. I understand my example is just that, an example which may have no relevance to the situation but it still shows how the trade could be better used elsewhere.</p>
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