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The Teams: Round 20
ESSENDON v COLLINGWOOD
Essendon
B: Henry Slattery, Michael Hurley, Heath Hocking
HB: Kyle Reimers, Cale Hooker, Mark McVeigh
C: Stewart Crameri, Jobe Watson, David Zaharakis
HF: Angus Monfries, Jake Carlisle, Travis Colyer
F: Kyle Hardingham, Jay Neagle, Patrick Ryder
Foll: David Hille, Jake Melksham, Ben Howlett
I/C: Brent Stanton, Ricky Dyson, Sam Lonergan, Courtenay Dempsey
Emg: Leroy Jetta, Brent Prismall, David Myers
In: Dyson, Slattery, Melksham, Carlisle, Crameri
Out: Alwyn Davey (arm), Jason Winderlich (hand), Brent Prismall, Bachar Houli, Dustin Fletcher (hamstring)
New: Jake Carlisle (Calder Canons), Stewart Crameri (Bendigo Bombers)
- As usual, the Bombers have gone to town on their list with usual scapegoats Houli and Prismall dropped.
- Winderlich, Davey and Fletcher are all out with injuries and it is unlikely we will see any of them again this season.
- Melksham returns to boost benches and Carlisle and Crameri will both debut, unfortunately at the wrong end of the season to have any DT relevance. Carlisle is a tall defender and Crameri and medium sized defender.
Collingwood
B: Nick Maxwell, Simon Prestigiacomo, Ben Johnson
HB: Harry O’Brien, Nathan Brown, Heath Shaw
C: Sharrod Wellingham, Dane Swan, Alan Toovey
HF: Alan Didak, Travis Cloke, Tarkyn Lockyer
F: Dayne Beams, Leigh Brown, Steele Sidebottom
Foll: Darren Jolly, Scott Pendlebury, Dale Thomas
I/C: Paul Medhurst, Brent Macaffer, Chris Dawes, Jarryd Blair
Emg: Josh Fraser, Luke Rounds, Simon Buckley
In: Medhurst, Brown, Blair, Lockyer
Out: Leon Davis (quad), Luke Ball (hip), Ben Reid (quad), Tyson Goldsack (ankle)
- Some big outs for Collingwood with Ball and Davis being large DT casualties.
- Medhurst will return, but surely that’s irrelevant now. Blair will be a good inclusion for some teams though.
CARLTON v RICHMOND
Carlton
B: Aaron Joseph, Michael Jamison, Marcus Davies
HB: Jordan Russell, Paul Bower, Dennis Armfield
C: Heath Scotland, Chris Judd, Kade Simpson
HF: Jeff Garlett, Lachie Henderson, Bryce Gibbs
F: Shaun Hampson, Jarrad Waite, Eddie Betts
Foll: Robert Warnock, Andrew Carrazzo, Marc Murphy
I/C: David Ellard, Shaun Grigg, Richard Hadley, Mitch Robinson
Emg: Joe Anderson, Setanta O’hAilpin, Andrew Walker
No change
Richmond
B: Chris Newman, David Gourdis, David Astbury
HB: Brett Deledio, Kelvin Moore, Daniel Connors
C: Mitch Morton, Dustin Martin, Shane Edwards
HF: Ben Nason, Jayden Post, Jake King
F: Matt White, Jack Riewoldt, Ben Cousins
Foll: Angus Graham, Shane Tuck, Daniel Jackson
I/C: James O’Reilly, Andrew Browne, Robbie Hicks, Andrew Collins
Emg: Robin Nahas, Alex Rance, Dean Polo
In: Collins, Gourdis, Post, O’Reilly
Out: Luke McGuane (virus), Will Thursfield , Mitch Farmer (knee), Jeromey Webberley
New: Jamie O’Reilly (County Down, Ireland)
- Two big outs for plenty of defence benches with Farmer and Webberley to miss.
- O’Reilly – a Irish import will get his AFL debut. He has been groomed as a defender and is more a project player than anything else, so don’t expect much DT scoring from him in his first outing.
FREMANTLE v SYDNEY SWANS
Fremantle
B: Dylan Roberton, Antoni Grover, Greg Broughton
HB: Stephen Hill, Luke McPharlin, Roger Hayden
C: Garrick Ibbotson, David Mundy, Nat Fyfe
HF: Byron Schammer, Matthew Pavlich, Michael Walters
F: Adam McPhee, Michael Johnson, Matthew de Boer
Foll: Kepler Bradley, Nick Suban, Paul Duffield
I/C: Paul Hasleby, Anthony Morabito, Jessie Crichton, Zac Clarke
Emg: Justin Bollenhagen, Clancee Pearce, Jay van Berlo
In: Clarke, Walters, Schammer
Out: Jay van Berlo, Rhys Palmer, Justin Bollenhagen
- The HUGE news here is that lack of Sandilands! The big 211 has not been named for the second week in a row, burning plenty of coaches! My advice is to trade if you are in an elimination final!
- Palmer and Bollenhagen are victims of the side’s thrashing last week.
Sydney Swans
B: Paul Bevan, Ted Richards, Rhyce Shaw
HB: Nick Malceski, Heath Grundy, Tadhg Kennelly
C: Lewis Jetta, Brett Kirk, Jarrad McVeigh
HF: Ben McGlynn, Ryan O’Keefe, Josh Kennedy
F: Mike Pyke, Adam Goodes, Jarred Moore
Foll: Shane Mumford, Jude Bolton, Kieren Jack
I/C: Trent Dennis-Lane, Daniel Hannebery, Martin Mattner, Jesse White
Emg: Brett Meredith, Sam Reid, Gary Rohan
No change
WESTERN BULLDOGS v GEELONG CATS
Western Bulldogs
B: Ryan Hargrave, Brian Lake, Dale Morris
HB: Robert Murphy, Tom Williams, Lindsay Gilbee
C: Callan Ward, Matthew Boyd, Liam Picken
HF: Andrejs Everitt, Liam Jones, Brad Johnson
F: Shaun Higgins, Barry Hall, Daniel Giansiracusa
Foll: Will Minson, Ryan Griffen, Daniel Cross
I/C: Nathan Eagleton, Brodie Moles, Jordan Roughead, Easton Wood
Emg: Mitch Hahn, Josh Hill, Dylan Addison
In: Murphy, Minson, Higgins, Ward
Out: Adam Cooney (virus), Ben Hudson (virus), Josh Hill, Jarrad Grant (soreness)
- We all know about the virus spreading around Whitten Oval, and at this stage only Cooney and Hudson will miss thanks to the cold. There are also still doubts surrounding Moles, Gilbee, Morris, Hargrave and the returning Higgins and Murphy.
Geelong Cats
B: Darren Milburn, Matthew Scarlett, Josh Hunt
HB: Andrew Mackie, Tom Lonergan, Corey Enright
C: Paul Chapman, James Kelly, David Wojcinski
HF: Mathew Stokes, Cameron Mooney, Travis Varcoe
F: Steve Johnson, James Podsiadly, Jimmy Bartel
Foll: Brad Ottens, Joel Selwood, Gary Ablett
I/C: Joel Corey, Shannon Byrnes, Tom Hawkins, Taylor Hunt
Emg: Simon Hogan, Ryan Gamble, Daniel Menzel
In: Hunt, Wojcinski
Out: Cameron Ling (hamstring), Harry Taylor (shoulder)
- Geelong haven’t made the plethora of changes perhaps expected of them, but both Ling and Taylor should each miss a week with injuries. Fortunately, neither of these are particularly DT relevant! It could be much worse!
PORT ADELAIDE v WEST COAST
Port Adelaide
B: Paul Stewart, Alipate Carlile, Tom Logan
HB: Nick Salter, Troy Chaplin, Danny Meyer
C: Kane Cornes, Domenic Cassisi, Travis Boak
HF: Cameron Hitchcock, Jay Schulz, David Rodan
F: Justin Westhoff, Daniel Stewart, Brett Ebert
Foll: Dean Brogan, Danyle Pearce, Robbie Gray
I/C: Matt Broadbent, Andrew Moore, Matt Thomas, Jackson Trengove
Emg: Mitch Banner, Scott Harding, Jasper Pittard
In: Salter, P. Stewart
Out: Mitch Banner, Nathan Krakouer
- Krakouer has deservedly been dropped after his abysmal showing against the Saints (could that have been the last time we see him in Port colours?) and has been joined on the sidelines by Banner.
West Coast
B: Will Schofield, Eric MacKenzie, Ashley Smith
HB: Beau Waters, Matthew Spangher, Brad Sheppard
C: Andrew Embley, Adam Selwood, Matt Rosa
HF: Brad Ebert, Josh Kennedy, Andrew Strijk
F: Nic Naitanui, Callum Wilson, Mark LeCras
Foll: Dean Cox, Scott Selwood, Luke Shuey
I/C: Koby Stevens, Quinten Lynch, Patrick McGinnity, Tom Swift
Emg: Tim Houlihan, Ben McKinley, Lewis Stevenson
In: Adam Selwood, Waters, MacKenzie, Wilson, Shuey
Out: Matt Priddis (ankle), Ben McKinley , Brett Jones (fractured cheekbone), Mitchell Brown (groin), Lewis Stevenson
- Plenty of positive inclusions here with Selwood and Waters both named. Shuey is the exciting news for all the players who have angrily held onto him all season! It seems he is returning at the right time of year and hopefully he can provide adequate cover if needed.
- On the other hand, the absence of Priddis will certainly hurt a few teams.
BRISBANE LIONS v ADELAIDE
Brisbane Lions
B: Brent Staker, Daniel Merrett, Ashley McGrath
HB: Jed Adcock, Matt Maguire, Pearce Hanley
C: Jared Brennan, Daniel Rich, Michael Rischitelli
HF: Luke Power, Mitchell Clark, Albert Proud
F: Todd Banfield, Jonathan Brown, Tom Rockliff
Foll: Matthew Leuenberger, Joel Patfull, Jack Redden
I/C (from): Simon Black, Cheynee Stiller, Travis Johnstone, Ryan Harwood, James Polkinghorne, Tom Collier, Aaron Cornelius
In: Collier, Polkinghorne, Johnstone
Out: Nil
Adelaide
B: Graham Johncock, Ben Rutten, Phil Davis
HB: Michael Doughty, Nathan Bock, Brad Symes
C: Nathan van Berlo, Richard Douglas, David Mackay
HF: Rory Sloane, Ricky Henderson, Bernie Vince
F: Chris Knights, Kurt Tippett, Jason Porplyzia
Foll: Ivan Maric, Scott Thompson, Brent Reilly
I/C (from): Taylor Walker, Scott Stevens, James Sellar, Patrick Dangerfield, Shaun McKernan, Will Young, Chris Schmidt
In: Sellar, Dangerfield, McKernan, Davis, Young
Out: Jonathon Griffin (ankle), Brodie Martin
- Some exciting young inclusions for Adelaide with McKernan, Davis and Dangerfield all returning, although this will unlikely help too many teams.
HAWTHORN v MELBOURNE
Hawthorn
B: Brent Guerra, Stephen Gilham, Thomas Murphy
HB: Ben Stratton, Josh Gibson, Grant Birchall
C: Chance Bateman, Sam Mitchell, Rhan Hooper
HF: Jordan Lewis, Lance Franklin, Shaun Burgoyne
F: Michael Osborne, Jarryd Roughead, Wayde Skipper
Foll: Brent Renouf, Luke Hodge, Brad Sewell
I/C (from): Campbell Brown, Xavier Ellis, Rick Ladson, Jarryd Morton, Garry Moss, Carl Peterson, Brendan Whitecross
In: Skipper, Brown, Hooper, Morton, Whitecross, Peterson
Out: Clinton Young (soreness), Simon Taylor, Matt Suckling
- Fortunately the ‘Hodge Out’ rumours were false and the only real big out for Hawthorn is Young.
- Skipper returns just in time to cover for Sandilands and Peterson also looks a likely inclusion.
Melbourne
B: Colin Garland, Jared Rivers, Clint Bartram
HB: Joel Macdonald, James Frawley, Rohan Bail
C: Tom Scully, James McDonald, Cameron Bruce
HF: Jamie Bennell, Jack Watts, Austin Wonaeamirri
F: Liam Jurrah, Brad Green, Colin Sylvia
Foll: Mark Jamar, Lynden Dunn, Aaron Davey
I/C (from): Jordie McKenzie, Nathan Jones, Jack Trengove, Brad Miller, Matthew Warnock, Paul Johnson, Cale Morton
In: Miller, Warnock, Morton
Out: Nil
NORTH MELBOURNE V ST KILDA
North Melbourne
B: Michael Firrito, Scott Thompson, Brady Rawlings
HB: Daniel Pratt, Nathan Grima, Scott McMahon
C: Leigh Adams, Brent Harvey, Sam Wright
HF: Ryan Bastinac, Aaron Edwards, Daniel Wells
F: Ben Cunnington, Lachlan Hansen, Lindsay Thomas
Foll: Hamish McIntosh, Andrew Swallow, Levi Greenwood
I/C (from): Todd Goldstein, Leigh Harding, Matt Campbell, Cruize Garlett, Ben Warren, Marcus White, David Hale
In: Hale, Campbell, Warren, White
Out: Jamie MacMillan (calf)
- Nothing too exciting coming in (in fact, that bench looks like the list of ‘players to watch’ at North prior to round one this year… oh how things have changed!).
- MacMillan is the only player out at this stage, although this shouldn’t hurt too many coaches.
St Kilda
B: Jason Gram, Jason Blake, Sam Gilbert
HB: Clinton Jones, Sam Fisher, James Gwilt
C: Brendon Goddard, Nick Dal Santo, Farren Ray
HF: Andrew McQualter, Justin Koschitzke, Leigh Montagna
F: Brett Peake, Nick Riewoldt, Stephen Milne
Foll: Ben McEvoy, Lenny Hayes, Adam Schneider
I/C (from): Jarryn Geary, Adam Pattison, Jack Steven, Luke Miles, Sean Dempster, Robert Eddy, Rhys Stanley
In: Pattison, Miles, Steven, Stanley
Out: Michael Gardiner (hamstring)
New: Luke Miles (Swan Districts)
- All we know at this stage is that Gardiner is out – Lyon was very unconvincing during the week as to whether he would bring in a runner or another ruckman. Ideally, Steven would be the best inclusion (or Stanley as a smokey), but expect Pattison to get the nod, despite not playing VFL on the weekend.
11 Comments on The Teams: Round 20
Sandilands and Harbrow still out hurt me this week. Webberley and Davis out means I have no cover in the backs and mids either. I saved my trades last week and lost because of Sandilands out so I don’t want to do that again.
Who is the preferred trade for Sandi? I’m leaning toward Jolly or McIntosh but another option might be Ryder (I have two trades and $170k) Thoughts?
I’m in a similar boat to you Greg – Personally i am looking at Jolly, but also looking at Mumford as my Smokey. This week he will play a Sandilands-less Freo and we saw what happened when H-Mac played them last week – he chopped! So if you really want to go all out this week, Mummy could be a great one to look at. His last two weeks are against Bulldogs and Brisbane, so nothing too amazing there, unless Hudson misses two weeks!
Jolly has a great run home for a ruckman – Essendon, Adelaide and Hawks – all sides that are very leaky to opposition ruckmen. Ryder’s recent form has been less than amazing so i wouldnt get so excited by him. In fact, i am contemplating looking at Hille, despite trading him out a few months ago. He is now mega cheap and is looking pretty good. His run home is OK and he has the ability to get some big numbers… I guess a lot of this also depends on how much money you want left in the bank. I will have one trade left after this so i believe having plenty of cash for a real upgrade would certainly be a bonus – although i wont plan my next trade around it.
Yeah, Jolly would be the preferred option, but i don’t mind Mumford as a smokey against a Sandi-less dockers. Perhaps even Kepler or the Lion-burger if you want to take a risk?
Also in the same boat as you boys… even thinking about benching Sandi and giving Warnock a run against Richmond and focusing on my Pods upgrade to be honest. He pulled an 85 against them in round one if that means anything? …
Bah, Harbrow misses again, atleast i have the week off, still wondering if i should trade though…
I think this will be brown’s last game of the year, playing his 200th at the gabba before going in for surgery with the wooden spoon out of reach, therefore I’m saving a trade for him, also saving one for Sandi who doesnt have a stress fracture but may be given time to be right for finals. That leaves me with two trades to play around with and i think i’ll use one this week, or will i…
Contemplating a Carrazzo to Gilbert upgrade, wont cost me much and will leave me with 100k. But Carrazzo has three games against teams which he scored over 90 against at the start of the year, richmond 131, geel 104 and freo 90. Thing is he wasnt tagging in the first two. But he also hasnt scored a ton for around 10 rounds.
Gilbert on the otherhand has good games, against whom he has scored over 100 against earlier in the year but he’s been identified by opposition as a forward tag option. Lyons giving him the odd run around in the midfield (did i steal that from a weekend wrapup?) which i find appealing. But could he potentially be rested for finals?
Note: Possible Semi’s opponents each have one of Gilbert and Carrazzo whilst possible grand final opponents both have Gilbert and not Carrazzo.
Or I could wait a week, hope prices change perfectly and turn Carrazzo into lake (Unlikely will probably have to double trade for this and would leave me with three WBD defenders and Five all up in my team)
So would this be an upgrade or trading for the sake of trading/possibly sidewaysing?
Disclaimer: There are varying views on the term ‘sidewaysing’, to clarify i consider it a trade that brings a mininmal point increase which does not bring a significant score improvement to justify the trade and could have been saved for an injury or used elsewhere to strengthen the team.
Also any news on harbrow?
Re: Rucks: Mummy is a smokey i like but as has been pointed out Jolly does have easy to score against opponents. HMAC has been in good recent form and has StK this week who have avg. rucks and then WCE and MELB who’s rucks are better, actually the only team that would deter me picking a ruckman if they were playing against them would be Freo.
Greg if your opponent has sandi/Warnock bench then i’d risk playing warnock(if you have him) and using one trade and cash to upgrade a defender to cover the zero and save one for injuries if you think you can win. If you’re facing two zeroes or think you need to double trade then double trade by all means.
Dont think Warnock will pull another 85, didnt carlton smash richmond in round 1?, as there will be less junk time as Richmond are now competitive, Graham also gives more of a contest in the ruck than vickery.
In an elimination final this week followed by the top ranked guy in my league who is in the top 500 so thinking a Hail Marry is in order.
2 trades left, thinking of going Sandi -> Brad Ottens then this frees up enough cash to go waters or eski -> Lake.
Is this too ridiculous or worth a punt?
Went Sandilands -> Jolly. Looking at my opponents team I probably could have won without the trade, but didn’t want to risk being knocked out. Have 1 trade and $187k left.
I did a double swap this week:
OUT: A Sandilands, IN: A Browne
OUT: J Russell, IN: B Lake
(H McIntosh & R Warnock are my starting rucks)
That’s left me with one trade and a couple of finals left to win. Fingers crossed!
On the new site layout I think it would improve legibility if the team names above were in white, or another contrasting colour. All that yellow text makes it difficult to quickly scan over the team lists.
Thanks!
Thanks for the comment Deja Blue!
I read your post incorrectly at first and thought you traded OUT Lake! haha… i was stunned!
I ended up going Sandi –> Jolly.
Really wanted to go Waters –> Broughton but decided not to in the end… hopefully he plays…
Ended up trading jolly in…. And ironically I would have also gotten 98 points from trengove who was my emergency… Oh well. It will really hurt if jolly does get rested this week though…
Did you get up Toby? I’ve somehow limped into a prelim by 21 points, however i think i’ve done my dash with having to use my last 2 trades on Friday to ensure a win. Now i have Lake, Buddy and Sandi all with niggling injuries, so hopefully they can come up for next week otherwise i’m pretty much screwed i think. Could be a short-lived finals campaign for me unfortunately.
Is it wrong that i’m already excited about picking my team for next year? ..haha
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