Footy Tragic
Round 8
Don’t forget to check out Tuney’s Team Summary from this morning!
FREMANTLE v COLLINGWOOD
Fremantle
B: Garrick Ibbotson, Chris Tarrant, Ryan Crowley
HB: Greg Broughton, Luke McPharlin, Roger Hayden
C: Adam McPhee, David Mundy, Paul Hasleby
HF: Michael Johnson, Matthew Pavlich, Stephen Hill
F: Matthew de Boer, Chris Mayne, Hayden Ballantyne
Foll: Aaron Sandilands, Michael Barlow, Paul Duffield
I/C: Nathan Fyfe, Rhys Palmer, Anthony Morabito, Alex Silvagni
Emg: Kepler Bradley, Nick Suban, Antoni Grover
In: Ibbotson, Silvagni
Out: Kepler Bradley, Dylan Roberton (soreness)
- Silvagni comes back into the side after a being a late withdrawal last week with an ankle injury.
- Roberton and Bradley make way – Roberton’s absence means he misses his third game and won’t go up in price – don’t be trading him in this week!
Collingwood
B: Heath Shaw, Ben Reid, Ben Johnson
HB: Harry O’Brien, Nick Maxwell, Alan Toovey
C: Luke Ball, Dane Swan, Steele Sidebottom
HF: Shane O’Bree, Travis Cloke, Alan Didak
F: Dayne Beams, John Anthony, Leon Davis
Foll: Darren Jolly, Scott Pendlebury, Dale Thomas
I/C: Nathan Brown, Chris Dawes, Brent Macaffer, Cameron Wood
Emg: Tarkyn Lockyer, Simon Prestigiacomo, Jaxson Barham
In: Anthony
Out: Paul Medhurst (foot strain)
- As expected, Medhurst comes out of the team with an injury, making room for the out-of-favour Jack Anthony.
- Ben Reid has kept his spot in the backline ahead of Presti
WESTERN BULLDOGS v SYDNEY SWANS
Western Bulldogs
B: Jarrod Harbrow, Brian Lake, Dale Dale Morris
HB: Ryan Hargrave, Tom Williams, Lindsay Gilbee
C: Ryan Griffen, Matthew Boyd, Daniel Cross
HF: Robert Murphy, Mitch Hahn, Shaun Higgins
F: Jarrad Grant, Barry Hall, Josh Hill
R: Ben Hudson, Adam Cooney, Daniel Giansiracusa
I/C: Dylan Addison, Jason Akermanis, Will Minson, Brennan Stack
EMG: Nathan Eagleton, Brodie Moles, Easton Wood
In: Minson
Out: Andrejs Everitt (ankle)
- Minson comes back into the side, meaning Roughead will not get a chance for his third game. Everitt makes way.
- Moles is named as an emergency, showing he is probably over his injury – he is not doing any good to us sitting in the stands though!
Sydney Swans
B: Rhyce Shaw, Ted Richards, Tadhg Kennelly
HB: Martin Mattner, Heath Grundy, Nick Malceski
C: Jarrad McVeigh, Brett Kirk, Nick Smith
HF: Ryan O’Keefe, Adam Goodes, Josh Kennedy
F: Jesse White, Daniel Bradshaw, Lewis Jetta
Foll: Mike Pyke, Jude Bolton, Kieren Jack
I/C: Daniel Hannebery, Henry Playfair, Lewis Roberts-Thomson, Gary Rohan
Emg: Paul Bevan, Matt O’Dwyer, Campbell Heath
In: Playfair,Roberts-Thomson, Hannebery
Out: Jarred Moore (ankle), Ed Barlow, Shane Mumford (suspended)
- Playfair is back into the Swans team after no games in two years. He is a well built forward and will fill in for Jesse White as he moves into the ruck. Playfair could be a good option, but i worry that his job security is low and will miss out when Mumford returns. He has shown good form in the twos though! Hannebery is also back into the lineup.
- Mumford is out for two weeks with suspension, which is a shame after the great form he showed as the Swan’s key ruckman.
MELBOURNE v WEST COAST
Melbourne
B: Jack Grimes, Matthew Warnock, Jared Rivers
HB: Cameron Bruce, James Frawley, Colin Garland
C: James McDonald, Jordie McKenzie, Aaron Davey
HF: Jamie Bennell, Matthew Bate, Jack Watts
F: Nathan Jones, Daniel Hughes, Brad Green
Foll: Mark Jamar, Brent Moloney, Tom Scully
I/C: Paul Johnson, Colin Sylvia, Jack Trengove, Clint Bartram
Emg: Neville Jetta, Jake Spencer, Lynden Dunn
In: Jack Watts
Out: Lynden Dunn
- Jack Watts comes into the squad for his first game of the year. Melbourne have made a point to keep him in the VFL until showing form, and that is what he has done. Will probably not have much DT value, but could still be worth keeping an eye on, especially now that Melbourne are playing some good attacking footy.
West Coast Eagles
B: Will Schofield, Darren Glass, Beau Waters
HB: Lewis Stevenson, Eric MacKenzie, Shannon Hurn
C: Matt Rosa, Matt Priddis, Brad Ebert
HF: Brad Sheppard, Josh Kennedy, Ashton Hams
F: Mark Nicoski, Quinten Lynch, Mark LeCras
Foll: Dean Cox, Adam Selwood, Tom Swift
I/C: Patrick McGinnity, Ben McKinley, Nic Naitanui, Scott Selwood
Emg: Mitchell Brown, Bradd Dalziell, Ashley Hansen
In: S. Selwood
Out: Bradd Dalziell
- Scott Selwood come back in after being a late out last week.
- Shuey owners will be happy to know that he should be playing in the WAFL on the weekend.
BRISBANE LIONS v GEELONG
Brisbane Lions
B: Jed Adcock, Matt Maguire, Andrew Raines
HB: James Hawksley, Brent Staker, Ashley McGrath
C: Michael Rischitelli, Daniel Rich, Justin Sherman
HF: Luke Power, Jonathan Brown, Cheynee Stiller
F: Todd Banfield, Brendan Fevola, James Polkinghorne
Foll: Matthew Leuenberger, Joel Patfull, Simon Black
I/C: Jack Redden, Tom Rockliff, Amon Buchanan, Matt Austin
Emg: Travis Johnstone, Pearce Hanley, Tom Collier
In: Buchanan, Maguire, Patfull, Raines
Out: Josh Drummond (knee), Jared Brennan (ankle), Pearce Hanley, Travis Johnstone
- A couple of big losses from Brisbane: Drummond will miss the season and Brennan could miss between 3 and 6 weeks. Johnstone has also been dropped after a poor showing on the weekend against the Dockers.
- Buchanan is back into the side alongside Maguire and Raines. Rockliff has held his spot!
Geelong Cats
B: Andrew Mackie, Matthew Scarlett, Josh Hunt
HB: Corey Enright, Harry Taylor, Darren Milburn
C: James Kelly, Cameron Ling, Jimmy Bartel
HF: Steve Johnson, Cameron Mooney, Travis Varcoe
F: Mathew Stokes, Tom Hawkins, Gary Ablett
Foll: Mark Blake, Joel Selwood, Paul Chapman
I/C: Shannon Byrnes, Simon Hogan, Tom Lonergan, David Wojcinski
Emg: Mitchell Duncan, Dawson Simpson, Ryan Gamble
In: Stokes
Out: James Podsiadly (soreness)
- MASSIVE NEWS with Podiadly out of the team with apparent “Soreness” – this is going to hurt plenty of coaches, especially those who were tempted to keep Brennan over the next few weeks… Whatever you do though, don’t trade him – he will be back!
- Missed amongst the news of Pods, Stokes will play his first game of the year. Priced at just over $320K, Stokes could be very good value with the amount of preparation he has made to get back for this game. At his best he is a great dream teamer, although a mixture of poor form and injuries ruined his 2009 season.
NORTH MELBOURNE v ADELAIDE
North Melbourne
B: Michael Firrito, Scott Thompson, Brady Rawlings
HB: Nathan Grima, Lachie Hansen, Daniel Pratt
C: Jack Ziebell, Ben Cunnington, Ryan Bastinac
HF: Aaron Edwards, Josh Smith, Brent Harvey
F: Daniel Wells, David Hale, Lindsay Thomas
R: Hamish McIntosh, Andrew Swallow, Levi Greenwood
I/C: Scott McMahon, Todd Goldstein, Cruize Garlett, Sam Wright
Emg: Nathan O’Keefe, Matt Campbell, Leigh Harding
In: Pratt, Smith, Greenwood
Out: Leigh Adams (hamstring), Liam Anthony (shoulder), Ben Warren
- Liam Anthony is out for the rest of the season with the need for a shoulder reconstruction. So if you have him, trade him!
- Warren is out of the side after several frustrating games in a row – could be finally time to offload him.
Adelaide Crows
B: Michael Doughty, Ben Rutten, Phil Davis
HB: Nathan van Berlo, Nathan Bock, Simon Goodwin
C: Myke Cook, Brent Reilly, Bernie Vince
HF: Richard Douglas, Kurt Tippett, Tyson Edwards
F: Jared Petrenko, Taylor Walker, Scott Stevens
Foll: Ivan Maric, Scott Thompson, Andrew McLeod
I/C: Patrick Dangerfield, Jason Porplyzia, Chris Schmidt, Matthew Jaensch
Emg: Jonathon Griffin, Jack Gunston, Tony Armstrong
In: Dangerfield, Walker
Out: Graham Johncock (shoulder), Brett Burton
- Dangerfield comes back into the squad quicker than expected, and Walker has also returned to help the Crows attack.
- Brett Burton has been dropped after he continually looks way too old and out of touch. Graham Johncock should be out for a little while with a shoulder injury.
RICHMOND v HAWTHORN
Richmond
B: Kelvin Moore, Will Thursfield, Luke McGuane
HB: Shane Tuck, Brett Deledio, Chris Newman
C: Shane Edwards, Daniel Jackson, Jeromey Webberley
HF: Dustin Martin, Jack Riewoldt, Ben Nason
F: Robin Nahas, Alex Rance, Nathan Foley
Foll: Tyrone Vickery, Trent Cotchin, Richard Tambling
I/C (from): Angus Graham, Graham Polak, Tom Hislop, Andrew Collins, Mitch Farmer, David Astbury, Matt White
In: Foley, Hislop, Graham, Farmer
Out: Dean Polo (suspended)
- This seems to be the fewest changes Richmond have made in a while – Foley and Farmer are the bigger inclusions, whilst Graham would also be likely to play.
Hawthorn
B: Campbell Brown, Stephen Gilham, Brent Guerra
HB: Grant Birchall, Ben Stratton, Shaun Burgoyne
C: Xavier Ellis, Sam Mitchell, Jordan Lewis
HF: Carl Peterson, Lance Franklin, Clinton Young
F: Cyril Rioli, Jarryd Roughead, Brendan Whitecross
Foll: Brent Renouf, Luke Hodge, Brad Sewell
I/C (from): Thomas Murphy, Beau Muston, Shane Savage, Ryan Schoenmakers, Wayde Skipper, Cameron Stokes, Matt Suckling
In: Burgoyne, Skipper, Mitchell, Franklin, Murphy, Stokes, Savage
Out: Chance Bateman (suspended), Rick Ladson, Jarryd Morton, Liam Shiels
- Plenty of changes for the Hawks this week, and finally they are for good reasons. Burgoyne will play his first game of the year, although i’d be looking at him closely before trading him in – injuries are one reason, but also, Burgoyne has always proven himself to be more a supercoach specialist than a DT gun.
- Wayde Skipper is a big inclusion, although i wouldn’t be trading him in. Mitchell and Franklin are also very big returns.
- Ladson, as expected, has been dropped and Bateman suspended.
PORT ADELAIDE v CARLTON
Port Adelaide
B: Jacob Surjan, Alipate Carlile, Troy Chaplin
HB: Paul Stewart, Chad Cornes, Steven Salopek
C: Danyle Pearce, Domenic Cassisi, Jason Davenport
HF: Matt Thomas, Justin Westhoff, David Rodan
F: Robbie Gray, Brett Ebert, Daniel Motlop
Foll: Dean Brogan, Travis Boak, Kane Cornes
I/C (from): Tom Logan, Jay Schulz, Cameron Hitchcock, Daniel Stewart, Jackson Trengove, Josh Carr, Jay Nash
In: Carr, Hitchcock, Nash, Schulz, D. Stewart
Out: Nathan Krakouer (groin), Warren Tredrea (ankle)
- It is great to see Hitchcock named again in the side (especially with Podsiadly’s exclusion), albeit on an extended bench – Wait until Friday night to rely on his inclusion.
- Krakouer seems to be in and out with injury, whilst Treddrea will likely miss the rest of the season with his achilles injury.
Carlton
B: Simon White, Michael Jamison, Jordan Russell
HB: Dennis Armfield, Bret Thornton, Kane Lucas
C: Heath Scotland, Bryce Gibbs, Marc Murphy
HF: Kade Simpson, Ryan Houlihan, Andrew Carrazzo
F: Jarrad Waite, Setanta O’hAilpin, Eddie Betts
Foll: Matthew Kreuzer, Aaron Joseph, Chris Judd
I/C (from): Steven Browne, Jeff Garlett, Lachie Henderson, Sam Jacobs, Chris Johnson, Mitch Robinson, Chris Yarran
In: Browne, Henderson, Robinson
- The Blues have named three inclusions, although i would be surprised if any played. Henderson would be the most likely if any were to get a guernsey.
ST KILDA v ESSENDON
St Kilda
B: James Gwilt, Zac Dawson, Sam Gilbert
HB: Steven Baker, Sam Fisher, Jason Blake
C: Clint Jones, Nick Dal Santo, Farren Ray
HF: Andrew McQualter, Brendon Goddard, Adam Schneider
F: Jason Gram, Justin Koschitzke, Stephen Milne
Foll: Michael Gardiner, Lenny Hayes, Leigh Montagna
I/C (from): David Armitage, Raphael Clarke, Robert Eddy, Jarryn Geary, Nick Heyne, Ben McEvoy, Rhys Stanley
In: Armitage, Eddy, Heyne, McEvoy, Stanley
Out: Steven King (hamstring), Jack Steven
- There will be at least two changes at the Saints, although it has been hinted there will be three. McEvoy is a definite inclusion for King and Jack Steven will also miss out.
- Of those coming back in, i expect Armitage and Heyne the others most likely to get a game. If so, this would be Heyne’s first game for the club (as if would be if Stanley were named).
Essendon
B: Heath Hocking, Dustin Fletcher, Mark McVeigh
HB: Brent Prismall, Cale Hooker, Nathan Lovett-Murray
C: Jake Melksham, Jobe Watson, Sam Lonergan
HF: Angus Monfries, Scott Gumbleton, David Zaharakis
F: David Hille, Michael Hurley, Alwyn Davey
Foll: Patrick Ryder, Brent Stanton, Jason Winderlich
I/C (from): Mark Williams, Leroy Jetta, Travis Colyer, Courtenay Dempsey, David Myers, Jarrod Atkinson, Ben Howlett
In: Williams, Jetta, Colyer, Myers
Out: Henry Slattery (back)
- Slatterey is so far the only confirmed out for the Bombers, who look to have brought plenty of pace into their team to attempt to beat the Saints. This means that Howlett’s spot in the team is probably a bit shaky – fingers crossed he will play though.
- Jetta, Colyer and Myers could be good inclusions for the Bombers, however i think playing Williams will just be playing straight into the Saints hands.
Richmond, Hawthorn, Port Adelaide, Carlton, St Kilda and Essendon will trim their 25-man squads down to 22 at 5pm on Friday.
21 Comments on Round 8
Hey guys love your work. Upgrading Trengove this week, who do you recomend out of Vince and Selwood?
@Achy
Trengove still has 1 more price rise in him i think – he could easily go over the 300k mark. But in my opinion, Selwood is the go; seems to always start slow, but looks to be in form now and so expect 100′s! Also, look at Jordan Lewis, cheap as chips and could easily avg 100 for teh rest of season after nearly being dropped!
Toby, i was wondering how Armitage’s scores will affect Hayes scores? Do you think that he could potentially ‘steal’ points from Hayes both being in and under players?
Armitage Is getting Luke balls role and gametime as either relief off the bench for Hayes, montagna, Goddard and Ray or he’s getting some minor tagging roles (why his scores have been so shit thus far) and back tithe gametime % it’s somewhere between 65 and 70% and has been lessening as Lenny has been getting back to fitness after his preseason calf setback. So in summary no I do not think armitage will affect Kenna scores.
hey guys,
I need everyones help on a unique backman for about 350k. I can get someone for waters this week for someone under 351k but thinking of waiting another week and do a double trade to get more money.
Im thinking Russell or Grimes will have a good second half of the year…
@Achy A week or so ago I read something (sorry, can’t remember where) about Vince having hamstring tendonitis – As a Selwood ‘owner’ (so it’s a biased opinion), I’d be recommending Selwood over Vince anyway! I’m confident he’ll only improve from here – signing a new contract today surely can’t hurt :-)
Big decision for me this week, I can either get Goddard or Swan in, but not both. I have $166,600 in the bank.
Options;
1) Maguire -> Goddard: I’m $19k short so need a downgrade trade
2) Waters -> Goddard: straight swap with $38500 left over
3) Trengove -> Swan: I’m $12k short so again need a downgrade trade.
If I trade Waters out that leaves me with Maguire and possibly requires another trade. Maguire out leaves me with Waters who I’ll probably keep as 7th back and complete my backline. Trengove probably has another price rise left in him and if I get Swan in it will complete my mids.
Possibly downgrade options are Hall or Nason.
Goddard and Swan will both rise in price this week so I’m not completely sure which way to go. I’m leaning toward option 2 as there are no standout downgrade targets. I was all set to do the Goddard trade this week, but Swan’s price has me doubting myself.
Thoughts?
Sorry for the double post.
I just noticed Clark is still out. Do I trade to save another 0 or just suck it up. For example, if I went Clark to Kruzer I could afford all trades above.
Going for league win and playing the leader this week (and expecting a loss) so might be worth saving the trade.
Greg, none of these trades are ‘cruxial’ as u still have all of waters, maguire and trengove on the field, so could it be worth waiting another week? I think trengove could go up more than swan and allow for an easier swap. I don’t like downgrading just for the sake of $12k… Or if u do downgrade, might it make more sense to look at ablett? If not, swan is looking better after his slow start, and Goddard is alwyas going to deliver consistently.
As for ur rucks, it is a bit of a worry? Who’s on ur bench? If u have trengrove, he could be ok this week with tredrea out, so worth considering!
All what u suggested is good, but I’d be nervous for u if u did two trades just for that one upgrade, sorry
let me know how u go and maybe some others have some suggestions?
My dilemma is Hayes or Swan for a Martin upgrade – I was set on Hayes, but am now thinking if I don’t get Swan now I’ll probably never get him…
@Greg – Webberley plays his 2nd game this week, might he be a suitable downgrade target for Nason – perhaps you’d prefer to see him play twice and be named for his 3rd game before jumping.
Here’s hoping Howlett plays!! Come on Knights, show him some love.
@Acidfiend – after hearing Heath Hocking on SEN this morning, I’m not overly confident Howlett will play – having seen Carlton make St Kilda look slow, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Jetta and Colyer come in for their additional zip and leg-speed. Don’t get me wrong, I’ve got Howlett in my team and would much prefer he plays and earns me more cash :-)
Thanks Toby. My ruck bench is Warnock and a no-name rookie, so no cover there. Regarding Goddard, I chose to start the season without him hoping he would fall in price then pounce. My concern is, will he be this price again (same for Swan)?
You’re right that neither trade is cruical. The only concern is in the rucks. I guess I’ll wait for final teams to be announced and then decide.
Hmm cheers Juzz – we’ll have to wait and see. I just used my bank to upgrade Duncan into Dane Swan. I’m not sure how many more games Mitch will get considering the returning players Geelong have now. Would have liked to have kept him but I need someone scoring every week.
Yay, Howlett still IN :-) Though with Lovett-Murray a late withdrawal due to a foot injury, I wonder if he would otherwise have retained his spot… Oh well, who cares, he’s playing and that’s all that matters from a DT perspective. From an Essendon supporter’s perspective, I’d probably rather NatRat was playing.
So, Howlett remains! Hitchcock is back in! And Nick Heyne makes his debut for the Saints – he has been highly rated at Moorabin, so keep a close eye on him. Although Ross isnt a big fan of playing the kids, Heyne is EXACTLY the type of player we have been waiting to develop – even when Riewoldt is in the team!
Look for Goddard to spend more time up forward too!
Greg: I had an idea for you – how bout the following trades:
1/ Warnock –> Wayde Skipper. Makes you $60k and you will have a playing ruckman whilst Clark is out. Skipper could actually score ok too!
2/ Either of Maguire –> Goddard or Trengove –> Swan. I probably prefer the Goddard move as i think Trengove still has a bit of improvement in him! But, bringing in Swan isnt really a bad idea either…
Thanks Toby and Juzz for your thoughts.
I like that idea Toby and although I consider ruck trades to be wasted this will at least give me a full team. My other thought was Nason to Webberly as Juzz suggested. Either way I will only have 13 trades left after that, which could be a concern?
I’m keen to get Goddard because I agree that Trengove probably has a little more room to move before he peaks.
Baring injuries that will complete my backline and only one trade left for my mids….then it’s time to fix my train wreck of a forward line.
Wow….2hrs 26mins left to procrastinate over this decision :(
Yeah… I’m stressing a bit myself…
I am definitely offloading Bazza to Pav… I am then considering my options with Brennan;
1/ Keep him and play Hitchcock in his place and then Pods when he is back next week. Hope the injury is only 3 weeks.
2/ Trade him to the best player i can afford: Didak, Stevie J, Goodes…
3/ Trade him for Stokes – VERY VERY tempted, but am worried about the risk involved with not having yet seen him. Could wait a week and see how he goes, playing Hitchcock in his place
This is doing my head in!
* First trade I went Nason -> Webberly. Webberly named on the wing is hopefully good signs.
* Second trade is either Maguire/Waters -> Goddard
Considering not trading Maguire now as he is averaging close to Waters and still has some price increases to go (not that it matters if I’m keeping him?). Although, playing at fullback doesn’t help? Waters has a higher value so I’ll have more cash left after the trade.
Think I’ll stick with my plan to trade Maguire.
Stokes is an interesting one Toby. I’m tempted too but I want to have a look at him for at least one week. Apparently he wasn’t named in the best in the VFL? If you have the cash to trade to any of those you mentioned it may be worth waiting a week to look at Stokes and make a decision next week.
Quick one fellas: Marc or Bryce as Captain this week?
Marc has a great record against Port but i just got a feeling Bryce is due for a big one for some reason? …
I just want to make it clear that I did not pick Gia for Captain this week, so his sh!t score was not my fault! lol
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