Footy Tragic

41 Comments on Round 6

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  By Juzz on April 29th, 2010 at 19:13:36

  While I’ll be keeping a close eye on Cunnington’s 2nd game, I’m particularly interested in how Jaensch performs – have read good things about him. Also happy to see a couple more Defender-classified rookies coming through in Webberley and Sheppard :-) The rookie I’m really wanting to debut is Rohan – he’s in the emergencies again this week!

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  By Wilson on April 30th, 2010 at 00:40:16

  What are peoples thought on starting Hams (v Freo) over Maguire (v Sydney) this week?

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  By Ben on April 30th, 2010 at 00:54:30

  I’ve now checked Richmond’s squad of 25 three times and I still can’t find Relton Roberts! Come on Hardwick, we need little Relton to play his 3rd game, preferably sooner rather than later.

  I would have thought Ben Howlett deserved a recall also.

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  By maanco on April 30th, 2010 at 08:01:24

  hey guys great post i love it how you have comments about the changes

  But anyway i havent got any playing bodys on my fwd,ruc and mid field bench. (since you barely need to worry about your ruc bench im not going to bother with them.)

  i have Dustin Martin and Mitchell Banner on my mid fielder bench and since martin and banner aren’t playing this week i was thinking about downgrading banner to Jarrod Kayler-Thomson. I have 16 trades left do you think this is a good idea?

  its the same deal with my fwd bench. tom rockcliff and Cameron HITCHCOCK who aren’t playing so i was thinking about downgrading Cameron HITCHCOCK to Phil Davis. What do you think? (i have 16 trades left)

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  By Ben on April 30th, 2010 at 08:47:16

  Wilson, You could toss a coin between Maguire and Hams because I think they will score at a similar level. If pushed for a definative answer, I’d go Maguire.

  Maanco, I have serious doubts about the ability of Mitch Banner and Cameron Hitchcock getting a game for Port Adelaide in the near future.

  With Port Adelaide near full strength (and Motlop to return possibly next week), the only way back in for these two would be through injuries to Port’s best 22.

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  By maanco on April 30th, 2010 at 09:00:40

  yer i know thats why i want to trade them out
  Cameron HITCHCOCK out to Phil Davis in
  Mitch banner out to Jarrod Kayler-Thomson in

  What do you think? or is there better downgrade targets?

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  By Juzz on April 30th, 2010 at 10:05:33

  With all the outs this week and the rumours surrounding Gia’s ribs ie. he’ll be the late withdrawal for Boyd, I’m a little nervous having no cover on my Forwards bench (I too am wondering if Relton still exists!) – would it be wrong to upgrade Rockliff to Sylvia? I’ve had Rockliff from the start.

  Maanco – have you considered Cunnington in the Mids, or is he too pricey?

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  By eebzzub on April 30th, 2010 at 10:22:33

  So here’s my dilemma.

  I have $244,300 in the bank with 18 trades….and this round has thrown up my first real quandary.

  I have Martin, Boyd and Bail in my midfield, and I am loathed to cop a doughnut at any point in the year, let alone in the early stages. I also have Dangerfield in my Forward line (with Hitchcock, Gumbleton, Pods and Co)

  I have, however, hatched a plan…tell me what you think:

  This week:
  OUT: Nason ($204,400), Martin ($213,300)
  IN: Davis ($94,500), Wellingham ($338,600)

  This leaves me $228,900 in the bank to upgrade Dangerfield ($228,700) to Goodes, Sylvia, Stevie J or Didak….

  My main concern is that Welly flames out after a good start, and doesn’t prove to be a keeper. There is no way I’m burning another trade in the MIDs after this one, so I want to make sure that I am not wishing I could trade him out later on in the season.

  Feedback….anyone???

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  By eebzzub on April 30th, 2010 at 10:45:29

  @ Juzz – I think Rockliff has plenty of time to improve, and will be in and out of the side all year. Despite his form, Vossy doesn’t seem to be as enamored with him as we all seem to be.

  So, if you are in a position where you have trades (and cash) to burn, then Sylvia is a good choice..Although from what I’ve read, every man and his dog is going to jump on this week before he gets too pricey!)

  Personally I would be keeping him – the whole reason you buy Rocky in the first place is to get cash out of him, and you gotta take the good with the bad. But if you’re that concerned about the “potential donut,” then pull the trigger…

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  By Juzz on April 30th, 2010 at 10:46:32

  eebzzub – I think Nason has more cash in him – any other Defenders you could look to downgrade?

  Wellingham worries me a little as he’s a bit of an unknown quantity – looks like his star is on the rise, but I’d feel more comfortable with a fallen/falling Premium such as Joel Selwood or Jordan Lewis…

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  By eebzzub on April 30th, 2010 at 10:47:23

  @maanco

  I have grave doubts about the ability of JKT to keep his spot long term, and I think that with 16 trades left, you should be thinking about trying to upgrade with at least one of your trades (whilst taking profit with the other one)

  How much cash do you have in the bank?

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  By eebzzub on April 30th, 2010 at 10:51:18

  @ Ben

  I, unfortunately, didn’t have the patience to wait around for Relton, and broke my “no sideways rookie trades” rule. Again.

  You’d think the future would be looking pretty shaky for both those boys, given that Essendon has 4 changes and Richmond has 7 changes….and still doesn’t see fit to bring either of them in.

  The only team more shambolic than those 2 in the AFL are my beloved Crows…

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  By eebzzub on April 30th, 2010 at 10:57:32

  @Juzz

  I agree that Nason has more cash in him, but my backline is flying. I have silvagni on the bench with the remainder of my backline averaging 674 per week (that 96.29 per player, per week).

  The aim of my little plan is to upgrade Dangerfield to a Premium. In order to do that, I can’t spend more than 380k in the mids this week…and whilst Welly worries me too, I don’t see too many any other viable options in my price range…

  You think Lewis will improve? I can’t cop 60s from a “premium” player.

  And, because i’m an*l, I don’t like having 2 players from the same team in one line. I have Bartel….and I worry about Selwood. stupid, no?

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  By Strife on April 30th, 2010 at 11:18:18

  Hey guys, I think I need some captain advice. I keep getting smashed every week due to captain Swan having a pretty ordinary year compared to last. The only thing is I don’t really have anyone else who would be much better. So yeah, regretting picking Swan over Ablett pretty badly. Doesn’t seem like I have much choice other than to get the super expensive Ablett in, but I’m not really sure who I should trade out of my midfield. I don’t particularly want to get Swan out just yet while he’s so underpriced when he could potentially explode later (same applies to Pendles and J Selwood). My other mids are Lewis, Barlow, and Trentgrove. What do you guys reckon?

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  By Juzz on April 30th, 2010 at 11:26:18

  @ eebzzub – fair comment on Essendon, having been at the Anzac Day game, I’m not confident we could even beat Adelaide at the moment and their current selection policy seems to involve picking names out of a hat… lol Howlett is at least named among the Emergencies, unlike Relton who appears to be MIA. Unlike the previous 2 years, my Defence has given me no grief at all this year (so far) and have out-performed my Forwards at least once!

  My only question mark on Lewis is that he scored well last week with no Mitchell in the team – timing-wise you obviously can’t wait to see if Mitchell’s return will affect Lewis’ scoring.

  You wouldn’t like my team structure then – I’ve got 2 Cats in the mids, 2 Hawks in the backs and 2 Dogs and 2 Lions in the forwards – not intentional, just how it’s currently looking… lol

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  By Juzz on April 30th, 2010 at 12:00:55

  @ Strife – having picked Goddard as my Captain last week when I have the likes of Bartel, Stanton, ROK and Hodge in my side, I’m in no position to provide sound advice on choice of Captain!! However, having said that, with Mitchell out and the way my Bombers are playing, I’d be inclined to give Lewis a try this week if you don’t believe Swan will bounce back with a big one. HTH.

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  By eebzzub on April 30th, 2010 at 12:09:04

  @ Strife

  Surely you stick with Quality. You know Swan is going to average around 100+ over a season….It stands to reason that if he has a few weeks at 80, he’s needing some big scores to get back to that average.

  The only thing more infuriating than seeing your consistent captain underperforming is to switch to someone else and see him explode.

  @Juzz
  After I made that comment, I realised how stupid it was. It’s not like they’re playing in/for the same position, right?

  I think (this hour) that i’m more inclined to gamble on Welly having a breakout year than Lewis recapturing past, consistent form…that’s due to change in about 53 minutes.

  As aside, keep the faith with Bombers. If they learn how to play defense, they will become a force to be reckoned with due to their legs and speed.

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  By bighughie on April 30th, 2010 at 12:15:38

  I’ve made my trades. Gray and Hunt out, Hams and Sylvia in. 16 trades and $190,000 in the bank.

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  By Strife on April 30th, 2010 at 12:30:15

  eebzzub – tbo I don’t really consider an average of around 100 to be good enough for a captain, but you do have a good point about how pissed i’d be if he exploded after i ditched him. that’s what i was thinking along the lines of GAJ – even if swan does explode it’s hard to imagine it being SO high above whatever GAJ happensd to score that week. tbo I kind of want them both on my side so I can just switch them around depending on form. the way i see it, weeks of keeping him as captain when he’s under-performing just so i don’t miss out on the one week when he explodes before i switch him back isn’t really that worth it.

  also, sorry i started this discussion here – just realised what the topic of tuney’s tuition was this week :p

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  By eebzzub on April 30th, 2010 at 12:39:39

  @Strife
  But you’ve already kept him while he’s underperformed….law of averages says that he has to have an above average game soon…!

  I just don’t see that you have any other viable captaincy options…

  There is no point trading Swan out (even if he wasn’t underpriced) because, frankly, you don’t burn trades on trading out premiums (when they’re fit and firing). If you don’t consider them Premium enough to keep (ie. if you don’t have faith in their ability to rebound), why did you pick them in the first place?

  Pendles – i have him in my side, and love his consistency, but he’s not Captain material. Very rarely does he score over 110, and he’s still prone to the odd below average game. Given that you’ve obviously gone for the Set-and-Forget captain strategy, I don’t think Pendles has enough “up” games to justify selection

  J. Selwood – will rebound, but similar to Pendles. Watching him play on the weekend also makes me think he may not be 100% – he’s performed at such a high level for such a long time at such a high intensity, he’s surely due for some downtime?

  Lewis – I’m not sold on, despite Juzz’s dismay at his Bombers.

  Barlow and Trengrove – I have a no rookie capital policy in my team, but if you were inclined, I see no reason not to pick Barlow – but again, not a long term captain.

  Unless you have a Hodge or O’Keefe type player (even perhaps Sandilands?), I really see no other option for your captaincy

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  By Strife on April 30th, 2010 at 13:03:43

  eebzzub – I do indeed have a Hodge type player in my squad – Hodge. didn’t mention him before because i more thinking along the lines of which midfielder i’d trade out for gablett (hodge is in my backline). i guess i could just give him a crack at captain and hope that swan finds some form in the next couple of weeks and really starts to pump out some huge scores. i suppose my instinct to get GAJ in is probably more reactionary than anything else because it’s pretty frustrating going head to head against a team that is probably not as awesome as yours overall but losing by a couple of points anyway because their captain choice basically gives them another entire player worth of points.

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  By eebzzub on April 30th, 2010 at 13:28:44

  I don’t know why you would get him now. That ship has well and truly sailed, and you needed to be on it from round 1…one average game, and his price will become a little more reasonable, but until then, you are just burning a trade on a sideways (slightly upward) move.

  I get your frustration – I lost last week by 7 points with Gumby on the bench facing a team with GAJ as captain…but sideways moves (premium for premium) are generally a wasted trade IMO.

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  By Toby on April 30th, 2010 at 14:01:42

  Strife- please please please don’t trade swan!! Yeah it’s annoying that his average has been down, but think of it this way- if I didn’t have him, would u want him?? I know that of swan wasn’t currently in my side I would be saving up to get him as soon as he bottomed out as we KNOW what he is capable of!! Yes he had a slow start, but so have collingwood- they have only just really hit their straps and I feel it won’t be too long before we see a massive score from swanny! Wait on ablett, as someone else said, all it will take is one bad game to pull his score right down! In then end, it’s all about the finals anyway!

  Eezbub, check out my Tuesday article on Lewis- I think u will find he ain’t too bad an option afterall… I’m personally a little sceptical on wellingham, especially since they nearly traded him in the off season as part of the ball trade! Yes he looks good now, but I can’t imagine him really being a keeper- Lewis is a much more appropriate option I think!!

  Good luck!

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  By eebzzub on April 30th, 2010 at 14:08:46

  @ Toby

  Firstly, thank God someone agrees with my Swan thoughts. I was beginning to feel all alone….!!

  Secondly, is there a case to be made for a longer term view dollar wise? I mean, upgrading to Lewis gives me 20k less the next week to upgrade Danger…which in turn gives me 20k less flexibility going forward…?

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  By Strife on April 30th, 2010 at 14:32:28

  Ok guys, I can’t really keep arguing with that kind of logic, especially when it seems to be the consensus. I guess I’ll just make Hodge my captain until either Swan pulls his finger out or Ablett has a bad game and gives me an opportunity to pounce (though I won’t be holding my breath waiting for the latter to happen). I think I’ll also write a little note to remind myself next season to start with both of the two best dreamteamers so I can just swap the captaincy around if one of them hits a rough patch. Bit of a shitty lesson to have to learn, but I guess you’re right about it not mattering too much before finals time, Toby.

  Well thanks guys for talking me out of doing something I’d probably regret later ;-)

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  By Toby on April 30th, 2010 at 14:54:05

  Yeah there kinda is a point to be made re making money, but I’m of the opinion u don’t substitute quality just so u can get someone a bit better later… Who did u want to trade danger for next week? Remembering, u could afford Davis, brown (he will drop significantly this week), and maybe even didak… No point getting a mid ranged improver this week just to prevent from getting one next week… Know wat I mean? Sometimes it’s worth taking it a week at a time, especially due to the amount of problems this comp can throw up! In saying that, wellingham ain’t a BAD choice… I just think Lewis is probably smarter- only in 1% of teams too, so u don’t have to worry about him being too common…

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  By Juzz on April 30th, 2010 at 15:05:56

  So is anyone else going to try and talk me out of trading Rockliff to Sylvia? This upgrade would give me a forward line consisting of ROK, Brown, Brennan, Gia, Higgins, Sylvia, Pods/Gumby & Relton

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  By eebzzub on April 30th, 2010 at 15:21:57

  @ Toby – see my comment in the coaches box ;-)

  @ Juzz – I still don’t think you should trade. See reasons above. I also think you’re trading off a rumour (about Gia) which is never that great…especially as you have Brown under an injury cloud, and you have Higgins who is a known hammy risk. Trades are GOLD, and if you can avoid using them, you should. At all costs. No donut = no trade.

  Having said that, it’s not a bad upgrade at all.

  Not helping much, am i? ;)

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  By eebzzub on April 30th, 2010 at 15:23:55

  Oh, and Toby – unfortunately, I already have Mr Davis.
  FWD Line is currently – ROK, PAV, GIA, JAY-Z, NEON, PODS, Gumby with Danger and HitchCOCK on the bench.

  Juzz – please note that I also have no cover for Gia. So if he doesn’t play, we’re both screwed ;)

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  By Ben on April 30th, 2010 at 15:41:27

  I’m sticking with Swan as my skipper. He wasn’t the best performed DT player in 2009 by accident. He’s capable of racking up 40 possessions plus and I’m backing him in to do it this week against the Blues!

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  By Toby on April 30th, 2010 at 16:00:27

  For those nervous about Gia being a late out, remember that Friday’s final teams (including all late withdrawals) must be done by 6:10 tonight (so 1.5hrs before lockout). So we will know then if he is playing or not, so make sure u check that before trading unnecessarily… Personally, i am not keen on trading bench players just for cover – the likes of Rockliff, Moles, Shuey, Hitchcock, etc have a way to go before they have given me every possible dollar, therefore i am keeping them, despite the fact it means i have no bench players playing in either my forward line or midfield… This is likely to be just a bad week, and i imagine a couple will be back next week! I will only trade them if 100% necessary!!
  As for Captain, this week i am locking in Bartel vs Richmond at Skilled – if it rains, lock him in for 150+ I have Hodge as VC, but could easily give it to one of Hayes, Gibbs or Swan!

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  By LeatherHed on April 30th, 2010 at 16:11:47

  Ablett to miss…

  http://www.geelongcats.com.au/geelongnews/newsarticle/tabid/3933/newsid/93356/default.aspx

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  By eebzzub on April 30th, 2010 at 16:19:55

  Whoa! Bet “Strife” is glad he didn’t pull the trigger on the GAJ trade!! :)

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  By Toby on April 30th, 2010 at 16:48:10

  BIG news! Thanks Leatherhead!!

  Wow… that’s going to hurt a LOT of teams!

  And it jump emphasises the point as to why you NEVER trade until late on a Friday!

  And btw, before anyone even thinks about it, DO NOT TRADE HIM OUT!!! I know it seems even fruitless to warn people, but i can guarantee there will be plenty of panic trades from coaches who have no cover on their benches!

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  By Juzz on April 30th, 2010 at 17:04:06

  Not that I would’ve traded until the last minute, but I tried (on my own spreadsheet) various combinations of trades to see if there was any way possible I could get GAblett in this week – all to no avail. I hope he is the only late out for Geelong as I’ve got 4 Cats in my team and Bomber’s comments (yesterday?) re there being late changes coz they had to name their team only 3 days after playing on Monday made me very nervous… This news has sent another well-known site for DT’ers into semi-meltdown.

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  By Strife on April 30th, 2010 at 17:26:10

  Haha my god if I had have traded him this week I would have been SO pissed! But yeah, it’ll be nice to have a week where I don’t get totally bent over by him :p

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  By Greg on April 30th, 2010 at 17:57:39

  Makes you wonder, what if they weren’t playing Richmond? Would he still be out? Looks like they’re playing the late season resting games early.

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  By eebzzub on April 30th, 2010 at 17:59:09

  And why not? I mean, Richmond will try to put up a fight, I’m sure, but they just don’t have the firepower to be even on the same park as the Catties.

  (watch them go and win now….)

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  By Strife on April 30th, 2010 at 18:55:10

  I reckon he’d probably be out regardless of who they were playing. ESPECIALLY since it’s hammy related. I can’t see Geelong risking a player like Ablett considering when players seem to be having their seasons ruined with hammy injuries left right and center.

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  By messithemessiah on April 30th, 2010 at 20:07:41

  Hey guys i’m in trouble :

  should i trade seaby to cox or

  ziebell to slyvia

  HELP!!!!

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  By Toby on April 30th, 2010 at 20:26:10

  Hey I’d be going cox personally- the points gained is much better and north play Melbourne this week unlike Sydney who play Brisbane… Overall I think the cox trade wins, but only marginally…