Footy Tragic
Round 11
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RICHMOND v ST KILDA
Richmond
B: Will Thursfield, Luke McGuane, Jake King
HB: Chris Newman, Brett Deledio, Shane Edwards
C: Richard Tambling, Ben Cousins, Jeromey Webberley
HF: Matt White, Jack Riewoldt, Ben Nason
F: Robin Nahas, Ben Griffiths, David Astbury
Foll: Angus Graham, Trent Cotchin, Dustin Martin
I/C: Mitch Farmer, Andrew Collins, Troy Simmonds, Shane Tuck
Emg: Mitch Morton, Alex Rance, Tyrone Vickery
In: Will Thursfield, Troy Simmonds
Out: Graham Polak, Kelvin Moore (leg)
- Troy Simmonds will return for his last career game, with the out of form Polak making way. Moore is also a big loss for the Tigers.
St Kilda
B: Steven Baker, James Gwilt, Sam Gilbert
HB: Raphael Clarke, Sam Fisher, Jason Blake
C: Brendon Goddard, Nick Dal Santo, Farren Ray
HF: Clinton Jones, Rhys Stanley, Adam Schneider
F: Ben McEvoy, Justin Koschitzke, Stephen Milne
Foll: Michael Gardiner, Lenny Hayes, Leigh Montagna
I/C: Robert Eddy, Jarryn Geary, Andrew McQualter, Brett Peake
Emg: Adam Pattison, David Armitage, Jack Steven
In: Jarryn Geary
Out: Zac Dawson (ankle)
- Geary is an appropriate inclusion after a good game for Sandy on the weekend. Dawson is set to only miss one week, however may be forced to earn his spot back via Sandringham.
- Rhys Stanley will play his third game.
CARLTON v MELBOURNE
Carlton
B: Aaron Joseph, Michael Jamison, Bret Thornton
HB: Steven Browne, Andrew Walker, Jordan Russell
C: Kade Simpson, Chris Judd, Heath Scotland
HF: Ryan Houlihan, Jarrad Waite, Andrew Carrazzo
F: Eddie Betts, Setanta O’hAilpin, Matthew Kreuzer
Foll: Sam Jacobs, Bryce Gibbs, Marc Murphy
I/C: Joe Anderson, Jeff Garlett, Richard Hadley, Mitch Robinson
Emg: Shaun Grigg, Lachie Henderson, Brock McLean
In: Ryan Houlihan, Jarrad Waite
Out: Brock McLean, Lachie Henderson
- Brock McLean is dropped for what would have been his first game against his old club. Lachie Henderson also makes way.
- Waite comes back into the side after serving his suspension.
Melbourne
B: Clint Bartram, James Frawley, Cameron Bruce
HB: Jack Grimes, Jared Rivers, James McDonald
C: Brad Green, Jack Trengove, Aaron Davey
HF: Nathan Jones, Brad Miller, Tom Scully
F: Jamie Bennell, Jack Watts, Cale Morton
Foll: Mark Jamar, Brent Moloney, Neville Jetta
I/C: Matthew Bate, Colin Sylvia, Jordan Gysberts, Colin Garland
Emg: Jordie McKenzie, Kyle Cheney, Michael Newton
In: Matthew Bate, Jack Trengove, Tom Scully
Out: Joel Macdonald , Austin Wonaeamirri , Matthew Warnock
- A few big inclusions for Melbourne with Bate, Trengove and Scully all making their way back into the squad. Gysberts is also named for his second game.
- Wona is not a huge surprise to see on the ‘out’ list, whilst Macdonald and Warnock are two senior omissions.
ADELAIDE v FREMANTLE
Adelaide
B: Graham Johncock, Ben Rutten, Michael Doughty
HB: Brent Reilly, Phil Davis, Nathan van Berlo
C: Andrew McLeod, Simon Goodwin, David Mackay
HF: Richard Douglas, Scott Stevens, Scott Thompson
F: Jason Porplyzia, Kurt Tippett, Taylor Walker
Foll: Ivan Maric, Tyson Edwards, Patrick Dangerfield
I/C: Jonathon Griffin, Rory Sloane, Jared Petrenko, Tony Armstrong
Emg: Myke Cook, James Sellar, Chris Schmidt
In: Graham Johncock, Tyson Edwards
Out: Nathan Bock (groin), Chris Schmidt
- Edwards comes into play his last career game, whilst Stiffy also comes back into the side after spending plenty of time injured on the sidelines.
- Bock is a big omission, but should only miss one game. Schmidt was terrible against the Saints so will need to earn his spot back via the SANFL.
Fremantle
B: Ryan Crowley, Chris Tarrant, Kepler Bradley
HB: Antoni Grover, Adam McPhee, Roger Hayden
C: Garrick Ibbotson, David Mundy, Steven Dodd
HF: Jay van Berlo, Matthew Pavlich, Stephen Hill
F: Nathan Fyfe, Chris Mayne, Hayden Ballantyne
Foll: Aaron Sandilands, Michael Barlow, Paul Duffield
I/C: Nick Suban, Rhys Palmer, Anthony Morabito, Matthew de Boer
Emg: Ben Bucovaz, Clancee Pearce, Alex Silvagni
In: Barlow, Dodd
Out: Paul Hasleby (back), Clancee Pearce
- Many will be happy to see Barlow back into this side – he was given a fitness test on Monday and by all reports was tested fine.
- Haselby is out with an injury to his back, and Pearce is omitted.
NORTH MELBOURNE v BRISBANE LIONS
North Melbourne
B: Michael Firrito, Scott Thompson, Brady Rawlings
HB: Lachie Hansen, Nathan Grima, Daniel Pratt
C: Jack Ziebell, Cruize Garlett, Ryan Bastinac
HF: Sam Wright, Todd Goldstein, Brent Harvey
F: Daniel Wells, David Hale, Lindsay Thomas
Foll: Hamish McIntosh, Andrew Swallow, Levi Greenwood
I/C: Scott McMahon, Ed Lower, Ben Cunnington, Matt Campbell
Emg: Corey Jones, Nathan O’Keefe, Brayden Norris
In: Wells, Lower, Garlett
Out: Drew Petrie (foot), Leigh Harding, Nathan O’Keefe
- Wells is back into the side, but the DT news here is that O’Keefe is omitted, despite Petrie also coming out of the squad – further proving his place in the team.
- Petrie will spend another six weeks on the sidelines from breaking his left foot in his return game from a broken right foot! The guy has no luck!
Brisbane Lions
B: Ashley McGrath, Matt Maguire, James Hawksley
HB: Travis Johnstone, Joel Patfull, Tom Collier
C: Justin Sherman, Simon Black, Tom Rockliff
HF: Todd Banfield, Jonathan Brown, Jack Redden
F: Luke Power, Brendan Fevola, Brent Staker
Foll: Mitchell Clark, Daniel Rich, Michael Rischitelli
I/C: Matthew Leuenberger, Amon Buchanan, Sam Sheldon, Jared Brennan
Emg: Andrew Raines, Callum Bartlett, Aaron Cornelius
In: Jared Brennan
Out: James Polkinghorne (leg)
- Brennan is a surprise inclusion, only four weeks after he injured his ankle. He will probably still need to pass a fitness test, but Brisbane would surely be very happy to see his return!
WEST COAST v GEELONG CATS
West Coast
B: Beau Waters, Eric MacKenzie, Will Schofield
HB: Sam Butler, Beau Wilkes, Shannon Hurn
C: Matt Rosa, Matt Priddis, Bradd Dalziell
HF: Brad Sheppard, Josh Kennedy, Andrew Embley
F: Ben McKinley, Mitchell Brown, Mark LeCras
Foll: Dean Cox, Adam Selwood, Brad Ebert
I/C: Nic Naitanui, Scott Selwood, Lewis Stevenson, Tom Swift
Emg: Brett Jones, Quinten Lynch, Patrick McGinnity
In: Mitchell Brown, Bradd Dalziell, Lewis Stevenson
Out: Quinten Lynch, Mark Nicoski, Patrick McGinnity
- Lynch is out after six goals in five games, with Mitch Brown back into the squad to take his place at full forward.
- Lewis Stevenson will be a welcome inclusion to plenty of dream teams after his good start to his career.
Geelong Cats
B: Josh Hunt, Tom Lonergan, Andrew Mackie
HB: Corey Enright, Harry Taylor, Darren Milburn
C: James Kelly, Cameron Ling, Jimmy Bartel
HF: Steve Johnson, Cameron Mooney, Travis Varcoe
F: Mathew Stokes, James Podsiadly, Gary Ablett
Foll: Mark Blake, Joel Selwood, Paul Chapman
I/C: Shannon Byrnes, Dawson Simpson, David Wojcinski, Simon Hogan
Emg: Ryan Gamble, Mitch Duncan, Taylor Hunt
In: Simpson
Out: Tom Hawkins (general soreness)
- The ‘general’ takes another victim – clearly the new role in the ruck has taken it out of Hawkins and he will be likely rested for just one week. Dawson Simpson takes his place.
SYDNEY SWANS v ESSENDON
Sydney Swans
B: Rhyce Shaw, Lewis Roberts-Thomson, Nick Smith
HB: Martin Mattner, Heath Grundy, Nick Malceski
C: Daniel Hannebery, Brett Kirk, Gary Rohan
HF: Ryan O’Keefe, Adam Goodes, Josh Kennedy
F: Henry Playfair, Jesse White, Jarrad McVeigh
Foll: Shane Mumford, Jude Bolton, Kieren Jack
I/C (from): Paul Bevan, Craig Bird, Campbell Heath, Lewis Jetta, Matt O’Dwyer, Mike Pyke, Ted Richards
In: Ted Richards, Paul Bevan, Craig Bird
- Campbell Heath is another player waiting to play his third game, but his chances don’t look so good with Richards a possible inclusion. Watch for Friday night teams before confirming any trades involving him, however i still believe his lack of job security means you should avoid him.
- Ryan O’Keefe is worryingly named on a HFF, suggesting he won’t play this game through the midfield either. Possibly he is still recovering from his concussion of a few weeks ago.
Essendon
B: Heath Hocking, Tayte Pears, Courtenay Dempsey
HB: Mark McVeigh, Nathan Lovett-Murray, David Myers
C: Leroy Jetta, Jobe Watson, Jason Winderlich
HF: Angus Monfries, Scott Gumbleton, Brent Prismall
F: David Hille, Michael Hurley, Alwyn Davey
Foll: Patrick Ryder, Brent Stanton, Sam Lonergan
I/C (from): David Zaharakis, Jake Melksham, Jarrod Atkinson, Andrew Welsh, Tyson Slattery, Travis Colyer, Ben Howlett
In: Welsh, Melksham, Colyer, Slattery
Out: Dustin Fletcher (suspension)
- The Essendon extended bench is a scary one for Dream Teamers with all of Howlett, Melksham and Colyer playing the waiting game. Fletcher is out for a week after failing to overturn his tripping suspension.
HAWTHORN v PORT ADELAIDE
Hawthorn
B: Brent Guerra, Stephen Gilham, Thomas Murphy
HB: Grant Birchall, Luke Hodge, Ben Stratton
C: Jordan Lewis, Sam Mitchell, Clinton Young
HF: Chance Bateman, Jarryd Roughead, Michael Osborne
F: Cyril Rioli, Carl Peterson, Brendan Whitecross
Foll: Brent Renouf, Brad Sewell, Shaun Burgoyne
I/C (from): Xavier Ellis, Rick Ladson, Garry Moss, Beau Muston, Ryan Schoenmakers, Liam Shiels, Wayde Skipper
In: Chance Bateman, Rick Ladson, Garry Moss, Beau Muston, Liam Shiels, Ryan Schoenmakers
Out: Campbell Brown (knee), Lance Franklin (suspension), Rhan Hooper (hamstring)
- A few forced changes at the Hawks, including a one week suspension to Buddy and a four week knee injury to Brown.
- Bateman and Ladson are the bigger named inclusions, whilst Skipper is again left teetering on the extended bench – against a Port side with one real ruckman, he may be a chance to miss.
Port Adelaide
B: Jacob Surjan, Alipate Carlile, Troy Chaplin
HB: Paul Stewart, Chad Cornes, Steven Salopek
C: Jay Nash, Domenic Cassisi, Travis Boak
HF: Matt Thomas, Daniel Stewart, David Rodan
F: Brett Ebert, Jackson Trengove, Tom Logan
Foll: Dean Brogan, Danyle Pearce, Kane Cornes
I/C (from): Matthew Broadbent, Josh Carr, Jason Davenport, Hamish Hartlett, Daniel Motlop, Danny Meyer, Nick Salter
In: Davenport, Hartlett, D.Motlop, Meyer, Brogan
Out: Cameron Hitchcock (shoulder), Justin Westhoff
- Hitchcock didn’t pass his fitness test on his injured shoulder, whilst Westhoff has been dropped, thanks to the form of Trengove.
- Davenport, Hartlett and Brogan are big ins for the Power, whilst it seems pretty easy to argue a case for anyone on that extended bench.
COLLINGWOOD v WESTERN BULLDOGS
Collingwood
B: Heath Shaw, Ben Reid, Ben Johnson
HB: Harry O’Brien, Simon Prestigiacomo, Nick Maxwell
C: Luke Ball, Dane Swan, Alan Toovey
HF: Paul Medhurst, Travis Cloke, Alan Didak
F: Dayne Beams, Brent Macaffer, Leon Davis
Foll: Darren Jolly, Scott Pendlebury, Dale Thomas
I/C (from): Chris Dawes, Cameron Wood, Steele Sidebottom, Sharrod Wellingham, Tarkyn Lockyer, Josh Fraser, Leigh Brown
In: Leon Davis, Josh Fraser, Leigh Brown, Paul Medhurst, Tarkyn Lockyer
Out: John Anthony, Shane O’Bree
- No surprises with the outs, whilst Medhurst and Davis are the only certain inclusions for the Pies. Lockyer could be a chance against the Dogs, my expectation would be that both Brown and Fraser will miss.
Western Bulldogs
B: Jarrod Harbrow, Brian Lake, Dale Morris
HB: Dylan Addison, Tom Williams, Lindsay Gilbee
C: Ryan Griffen, Matthew Boyd, Daniel Cross
HF: Shaun Higgins, Mitch Hahn, Josh Hill
F: Jarrad Grant, Barry Hall, Daniel Giansiracusa
Foll: Ben Hudson, Adam Cooney, Liam Picken
I/C (from): Nathan Eagleton, Andrejs Everitt, Will Minson, Brodie Moles, Sam Reid, Brennan Stack, Easton Wood
In: Eagleton, Everitt, Moles, Reid, Wood
Out: Jason Akermanis (ankle), Ryan Hargrave (hamstring)
- We knew Aker was to be out, but Hargrave is a further blow to his owners who are already sick enough of his inconsistency.
- Moles could be a great inclusion thanks to the 105 points sitting in his rolling average. But he will have strong competition for spots with Everitt and Reid each also pushing hard for a spot. Eagleton is a pretty likely inclusion in one of the two spots. Brennan Stack may also find himself out of the squad.
29 Comments on Round 11
Argh, bl**dy Hargrave OUT! Though given his 57 last week saw him as my lowest scoring player, I’m not really complaining as long as Goose doesn’t let me down…
I too have goose to fill in for hargrave, gysberts and mckenzie being highlighted is a bit of a worry especially if there’s a late change (pure rumour:gysberts has a knock to his knee or something) also long term security. This would kinda screw up my trades but only cause I once gain wouldn’t have any bench cover and I’m scared of having gysberts on my bench if he isn’t playing and shuey… Maybe I just won’t trade for another week but then that puts Joey out of reach and Duncan not making any money could also mean that gaj will still b out of reach even if he does fall a bit. Also back to gysberts something about Bailey playing rookies for two games to give them experience then sending them back to the twos?
Nath O’Keefe out, Hitchcock out, Howlett on a worryingly long bench, and NO debutants to speak of.. the rookies are crumbling before us!
At least Moles is in contention for you Toby!
Yeah, pretty shocking week for ins… If moles and Howlett play i will be happy… But am not convinced about either.
Brennan back this soon hurts after i traded him for Higgins, who has given me two games in the 70′s and a zero… I now hate Hargrave. Part of me is even contemplating offloading him now and looking forward to locking him in for 2011. I only have Webberley as cover..
I play my missus’ team this week, so the gloves are off!! haha Not that she’s any chance, but if she wins… there will be trouble!
Haha! You’d never live that one down. It’s bad enough losing to your mates!
Just quickly, what are your thoughts on Daniel Stewart holding his spot? Had planned on the downgrade to O’Keefe but that is royally munted now, so the only other real option up forward is him.
Who should i trade in Ablett, Montagna or Judd? (580k to spend on a MID)
who should i trade out martian or cunnington?
I’d say Martin has probably peaked, yet has the best scoring potential, so hard to say. I’d offload Martin, only because he gives you more money to play with. Cunnington is still going to play out the season, so will give you good cover on your bench. I’d be trading in either Montagna or Ablett. Personally, i feel Ablett will be the bigger scorer of the two, but his injury woes still worry me…
Toby, what are your thoughts on Ziebell to Stewart and Hams to Fisher this week? This means i will have to play Rockliff as my 7th forward for the short term and hopefully either one of Hitchcock or Stewart can keep their spot for a while on my bench as cover. Not very sold on Stewart, but i would really like to get on Fisher this week before he shoots up in price and there really is nothing else to trade to.
Also, i figure because of Hams’ demotion back to the Rookie list for the Eagles, he’s just a wasted spot on my bench anyway. This will leave me with Webberley and Maguire as cover down back, which is fine with me.
Considering upgrading Hall/Ziebell to Sylvia this week. Leaning toward Ziebell. Thoughts?
thanks Toby
Do you think i should trade Eddie Betts out, to Richard Douglas?
Hargrave burned us all – fury!! How long is he out? I only have Webberly as cover also but not sure I can afford to trade.
think i might sit tight this week. still mulling over whether to upgrade my last forward (hall with watts and rockliff on the bench) or my last defender (sheppard with hams and webberly on the bench) but there’s not really any viable downgrade targets. I’ve got the cash to upgrade Sheppard to Grimes/Fischer/anyone around 370k this week but am thinking about holding off for a week.
Also, still cant decide whether to make both of the previously mentioned trades (which will involve using three trades, so i’ll have six left) or just the defenders. MAKE THIS DECISION CLEARER FOR ME.
Wilson, re D Stewart: he has showed in the NAB and SANFL that he is capable of taking a decent contested mark, is reasonably mobile and can kick a goal. However, he reminds me of Damon White who was in and out of the Port side more than Ron Jeremy. His 2 games to date have been tough ones to score well so he’s not as mug-like as they indicate. Having said all of that, he would be a big punt and probably not worth the risk. And having said that, I’ve been wrong with about 80% of my advice this season.
Wilson, one thing to consider is the possibility of Hams being re-promoted to the senior list with the mid year rookie-promotion option for clubs.
Toby, what are your concerns with Juddy? You dont seem to rate him? I know he’s traditionally a SC player, but surely he has done enough this year, so far his DT numbers and consistency are as good as anyone’s!
So what do you guys think of Paul Duffield? I was thinking he might be a relatively unique choice, but do you reckon it would still be worth getting him over the likes of Fisher, Carrazzo, and Gilbert type players that are similarly priced?
Stife, I’ve had Duffield since Round 1 and he has been pretty good – averaging 92 with the occasional low score. I’ve only seen one Freo game on TV this year, so I can’t comment too much on his role.
I’ve also had Carrazzo from Round one and his average is even better. The issue with him is occasionally his tagging role can cause his DT scores to suffer.
Toby can probably give you better info on the St Kilda guys that I could, but have a read of http://www.footytragic.com/whod-you-rather/mid-season-bloomers/#comments from last week. Toby gave a good rundown on Sam Fisher.
In my opinion, out of the four you have listed, perhaps Fisher offers better value for money.
Another forward trade I’m considering this week is Pavlich. I was planning to hold off for a week of two to see how he goes against his BE and the possibility of his price falling. I want him in my team, it’s just a matter of when.
Upgrade trades considering this week are;
* Ziebell -> Sylvia with $74k left, or
* Hall -> Sylvia with $98k left, or
* Hall -> Pavlich with $7500 left.
Bugger, both Heath and Howlett dropped from the Swannies and my Dons respectively…
Greg, you can’t go wrong with Pav. He consistently kills us (Adelaide). Every. Single. Time.
Bloody hell, another Friday night Captain dilemma for me! Cant decide between Bartel vs. Eagles or Boyd vs. Pies???
Both have great records against the respective sides they’re playing so it’s too hard to call!
What are your thoughts on Richard Douglas?
Bugger…Howlett playing for one more price rise would have been nice before deciding on a Gysberts transfer next week.
Wouldn’t bring in Douglas at this point. With that said, to fly in the face of that…I’m actually giving serious thought to Hargrave to Kepler this week…
Wilson, Bartel record at Subi isn’t quite as strong. Hasn’t had a massive ton there. A few 110 type scores, but no monsters. Ling out (for Taylor Hunt making his debut, $94K back to keep an eye on) might mean he plays a bit more of a defensive mid role. Boyd down on form since his hand injury. He loves the Pies though… Have you got someone like Goddard vs. Richmond to consider?
Well, in about 2 mins i might have Goddard if i trade him in! But yeah, i really want Boyd to get back into form and i can’t see a better reason why not than against the Pies. I really have no confidence in anyone else as skipper this week :(
i should have gotten Douglas but now i have to chose between him and Chapman or another forward
Are you serious? Douglas vs Chapman?
It’s a no brainer.
Yes, I’m serious Douglas is in fantastic form in his last 4 games he has avg 110 and he is 100k less than Chapman. Chapman says his over his hamstring worry’s but that could change.
Chapman looked like he was limping a few times in last nights game. I think it won’t be too long until the ‘general soreness’ curse strikes him.
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