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Position Advice – Midfielders
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Position Advice – Midfield and Rucks:
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This week we are going to be doing things a bit differently – due to no games being played on the weekend (and therefore no need for a weekly wrap), Kristian, Dan and myself will instead look through the four field positions and some the better buys from each price point in each one. Today I will be looking at the midfielders.
Midfielders:
$0 – $200k:
- Reece Conca: Conca’s role at Richmond in his first season will likely be off half-back, releasing Deledio and Connors into the midfield. He has a pretty good history of knowing how to win the ball, averaging 80 Dream Team points in the National Champs and 130 points in his two WAFL Colts games last season. I see Conca more as a Super Coach player though. He tested as one of the best kicks at Draft Camp and backed that up with a stellar National Championship campaign averaging 103 Super Coach points and the best disposal efficiency out of any other midfielder at the carnival. You’ll be paying a little bit more for him as he was a top draft pick, but it should be worth it, as I see him playing as many games as he’s fit for and he should score pretty well for you as he’ll be eased into the big time with a nice little role off half-back.
- David Swallow: I’d say there would be very few AFL followers who aren’t aware of Swallow – in fact he was probably one of the best-known youngsters a year before their actual draft, and there is little doubting why he has been so highly rated. His NAB form was solid without being spectacular – he had some very good cameos in games, but never really dominated. That said, he was one of Gold Coast’s best players in the VFL last year and has a body ready for a round two debut. I think we will see similar figures from him as we did from Dustin Martin last year – solid and consistent, without ever really dominating. My guess is he will play most games though and should be able to make you a fair wad of cash.
- Rohan Bewick: Bewick is another of the Gold Coast pre-listed players and he comes to the Lions with a couple of years of senior experience in the WAFL, where he averaged 20 disposals a game last year. There are ample spots available to him in the Lions’ midfield this season and there is no questioning whether he is good enough to fill one of them. This NAB series he averaged 77 DT points, including 118 against the Suns last week – a game where he managed to win plenty of ball and get on the goal-kickers list too. Could be a really solid midfield option from round one.
- Daniel Harris: There won’t be many teams without Harris this season, despite his average pre-season where he averaged only 38 DT points over two games. Despite this, there is little doubt he won’t be a dream team star this year – he is a midfield general in a young team and can tackle like nobody’s business. There will also be few of the younger players that McKenna will want burying under packs like Harris does, so he will be needed in the squad for their inaugural season.
$200k – $350k:
- Brad Sewell: Sewell had a year to forget last year, when he spent the first half of the season in horrible form. It took him being (nearly) dropped to the VFL to wake-up and finished the year in great fashion. Now thanks to his poor start, he comes horribly underpriced for what he can provide and could prove to be a great value keeper. At his best he can easily average 100 points, and this pre-season he has already shown some good form, racking up 50 and 94 DT points in two games where he spent significant time on the bench.
- Josh Kennedy: Kennedy was one of the stars of the NAB cup before fading in the last couple of games. He is a tough, big bodied midfielder capable of winning plenty of ball, as well as kicking a few goals. He should get more chances in the midfield for the Swans this year and should subsequently see a reasonably rise in price. Not sure if he will develop enough to be a premium by the end of the year, but he should certainly make some fair cash.
- Rory Sloane: Sloane has been one of my favourites this pre-season and the only reason I didn’t write about him in last week’s article was simply because I forgot (yeah… not a great excuse). After spending most of last year on a HFF, the tackling machine looks like having a bit more of a midfield role for the Crows this season. He wins stacks of the hard stuff and knows how to use it, so is probably a better SC option. Although at his price in DT, you couldn’t go too wrong there either!
Also look at (reviews taken from my article last week):
- Nathan Foley: Foley, at this very moment, looks a total bargain. His only issue is his body, which from all reports is looking great. His pre-season has been everything that would have been wanted of him as he returns from nearly two years of injury issues. He appears not to have lost any of his speed and there is little doubt that he will be played in the midfield from round one. He has never been a prolific dream teamer (but is very good in SC though!), so don’t expect a huge average from him. But that said, if he can come back and play some decent and consistent football, you could hope for an average of around 85 from him – not bad at all for his asking price!
- Callan Ward: Ward is another player showing strong promise after an injury-ravaged 12 months. Unfortunately, at his age he has never had a huge chance to show his capabilities, although he had always looked impressive when given his chance. Without doubt, he will be in the side from round one and will likely play a role through the midfield. He has been a player threatening a breakout season for years, so hopefully 2011 can finally be his year. Although, it’s worth noting that SC is more his game than DT.
- Liam Shiels: Shiels has clearly been impressive this pre-season, racking up DT scores of 97, 98 and 95 in his three outings so far. He is playing through the midfield (mainly on the wing), and has managed to find a way to goals too – he kicked three this week against the Demons. We saw last year how talented he was, but he still had the frame of a 14-year-old girl. Fortunately, he has put on some weight and his endurance is very good too. He is another player being talked up for big things by Clarko – so if the coach says you should get on, maybe you should listen!
- Rhys Palmer: You could almost count Palmer’s first year in the AFL as his breakout year, when he won the NAB Rising Star award. Unfortunately, after starting his second year slowly, he ruptured his ACL before having to sit out the next 12 months. Last year was again a write-off as he suffered form issues when returning from his reconstruction. Fortunately, this pre-season he finally looks like continuing on from where he left off in 2008. He has been in the best players each week after being one of the best on the track through January. The word out of Freo since Christmas has been how good Palmer was looking, so it’s great to see him replicate this on the field. He will have a big responsibility this year in Freo’s young midfield (but won’t get tagged thanks to Mundy and Hill), so should be given every opportunity to bring home some big DT & SC numbers!
- Steven Salopek: I love Sal. He has always been one of my favourite players outside of the Saints – I have never really been sure why, but I think he is just great (he comes in behind Chapman and Duffield though…). His recent issue (I am talking the past couple of years) have been injuries, coupled with position – under Choco he got very little time in the midfield, and I will put this down to his lack of conditioning due to injures. His recent DT history is therefore marred by inconsistency, but I don’t think that is really what Sal is about – he is legitimately a very good player, and now coming off a good pre-season, he should be able to launch into round one and prove a bargain for his petty sub-300k price tag!
$350k+:
- Dane Swan: There have been few better than Swan over the past couple of years as he has asserted himself as the number one man in dream team land. At his price he is not quite a must-have, but it is certainly advisable having the great man in your squad! His pre-season was pretty quiet by his standards, averaging 99 points… And he didn’t even look like breaking a sweat! If he doesn’t finish 2011 as the top dream teamer again, he is gonna come pretty close!
- Matthew Boyd: Boyd has perennially been underrated in dream team from year to year, despite his ability to accumulate huge numbers of the ball and use it well. He displayed this again through the pre-season with several good games and should be set for another consistently good year. As the new Bulldogs’ skipper, I reckon we may even see him go up another gear in 2011!
- Leigh Montagna: ‘Joey’ was the number one disposal getter in the number two side last year and there is a pretty good chance that the Saints will be round abouts again in 2011, making Joey a very good prospect. His major strength is his ability to find space through hard work and this often results in a large number of possessions for the little man – he also has a tendancy to kick much more than he handballs, which is very nice! With the likes of Hayes and DalSanto in the squad, Joey rarely gets the main attention from taggers.
- Scott Pendlebury: If there was anyone looking ominous enough this pre-season to possibly take the DT mantle from Dane Swan, it would be Pendlebury. He has been prolific this pre-season and certainly looks in some damn fine form. The issue for many will be whether they can really squeeze two Collingwood superstars into their midfield, but with many taking Swan as their first choice, perhaps a few wise souls may be rewarded with the selection of Pendles instead. Should be a lock for SC though!
- Tom Rockliff: Many will probably be surprised to see Rocky’s name up here next to the likes of Swan, Boyd and Montagna, but there seem to be plenty of seasoned dream teamers proclaiming Rocky as ‘the next Dane Swan.’ Big call, or justified? Well, looking at his pre-season numbers alone it will be hard to ignore him – his 132 points against the Suns on the weekend was massive, taking his pre-season average to 107. Many will be turned off by his price, but if you can see through that, you could be very nicely rewarded!
- Joel Selwood: Had a great game this week against the Blues, racking up a game-high 133 points. The question is, will he fill Gazza’s shoes, or will the extra attention hurt him?
37 Comments on Position Advice – Midfielders
Great article Toby. I think a player who has gone under the radar is A. Swallow – averaged 122 from his two NAB challenge games. Seems to be improving with everygame. Very durable and doesn’t have a ceiling on his scoring ability. I haven’t seen him in many DT teams so he could be a great point of difference for those going for the car.
I was hope you would keep Berwick a serect… Be good pick up in a side with poor mid field… One to watch
Is Dyson Heppell and Michael Hibberd going in with the backline crew???
Was just thinking… With League matches starting in Rnd 1 this year, combined with the Partial Lockout, we will be able to see our opponents’ teams (and vice versa) and make unlimited changes in light of this info on Friday (apart from any involving Richmond/Carlton players) – will make things interesting!
Am I obsessing too much? Probably best not to answer that! lol
off topic I know, but how do i get one of them flashy pictures. My guy doesn’t represent me very well at all
Interesting Juzz, but surely you wont be able to view your opponent teams until the conclusion of the round. Not sure about the live scores in the head-to-head section though (assuming they have that again this year). That might mean that you get to see your direct opponent’s team before full lockout? I’ll definitely give it a try haha!
Oh and yes to your second point too, but that’s why we’re on here every other day. ;)
I don’t think you can see your opponants team until partial lockout is over, i.e. saturday.
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yes, it all seems so simple now – cheers
Lets see if it worked
ok, wrong email, what about now
another great article from you tragics. well done.
it sounds about right that you wont be able to see other peoples teams until the Saturday.
i think warnie said something about this on there DT talk vid.
What everyones thoughts on Robin Nahas?
also the afl has released a review for each team. Its worth a look. http://www.afl.com.au/NewsViews/Features/SeasonPreviews/tabid/17339/Page123529/0/Default.aspx
And the Goats live. My DT shield will do for now, but ill sort something out during the season.
Now for some real info, I have a few freo supporting mates and they are dead set that Stephen Hill is set for a breakout year. With Freo’s injury’s to their mids he should see more time in there again. Unfortunately he had a very short preseason, was hoping some people might have the same trains of thought? Hes body is still a bit small for my liking to be a potent mid.
Hill’s pre-season means I’m not giving him any thought. He also needs to show that he can break a tag, because he had some absolute stinkers last year when he was blanketed.
Also, complete agree with Hippo about Swallow being an underrated premium. Maybe the Daniel Cross of a few years ago – takes a little while for everyone to work out he’s a fantasy star.
Atm i have A. swallow locked in after his ripper preseason.
Dan any thoughts on robin nahas?
@maanco
Nahas had a great preseason, but we have to remember Reiwoldt wasn’t in the squad most weeks. With Morton also doing well, Reiwoldt to return and Vickery spending more time in the fwd line Im not sure if Nahas’s inconsistent form we saw last year (saw him being omitted a couple of time I believe) will see him in the squad enough to consider. I will admit I dont know alot about richmond, just a few factors that may be on song.
Nahas has only had more than 20 disposals once in his career (last round in 2010 he got 21). Can go missing and I don’t think he’s even locked into Richmond’s best 22. Don’t see it personally…
And Maanco, Kristian (Richmond fanatic) wrote this last week:
maanco, if I could guarantee that Nahas would play 22 games and not get dropped, he’d be in my side right now.
He’s probably done enough to get a round one gig, but his decision making in the midfield is not very good and he’s gotten caught holding the ball ALOT this pre-season.
Having said that, he’s absolutely RACKING it up, and scoring a couple of goals too. Great DT role, but unfortunately a very borderline best 22 player.
I can’t trust his job security.
thats what i was worried about nahas not being in the best 22
thanks guys
I’d like to jump on the Salopek bandwagon. He has looked in good shape over the pre-season, and i’m going to put some faith in Port’s conditioning staff to get him up for most of the season.
The area I’m struggling in is the Rookie structure. Running with Conca, Heppell and Harris now, but would love to get a couple of those other good lookers in there (Bewick, Swallow, maybe Gaff, Atley or Irons).
I’d like to gauge some opinion on whether you stick with your gut, or trade to someone who plays round 1, when a rookie isn’t named. (ie. you want Atley, have him as a lock in your team, but he’s not named round 1. Your second choice is, however….)
Do you go with your second, named (possibly inferior) choice, or do you back your own judgment and stick with you gut?
Do you mean, should you pick Relton Roberts instead of Podsiadly?? ;-)
Personally, I am all for going with your gut and pre-season research. FWIW, Atley will play this week, but some people will get very tricked when someone like McKernan is named (to cover Tippett’s ONE WEEK omission). There would be no point picking McKernan, even though he has shown some good sings, as he is probably the first out in round two when Tippett returns. Similar things will happen with Bachelor at Richmond (replacing Moore) & Mitch Brown at Geelong (replacing Podsiadly). There will likely be other scenarios too.
These are all traps – the trick is not to fall for them and simply hope that everyone else around you falls in!
Good post cheers
Will you (Dan or Toby) actually kick in Rocliff? im inclined to think the highest he can average will be 95
What are your thoughts on viv michie, One of my rookies im just not sold is is darling. There are only 5 scoring players from the eagles fwds (from last year) so theres room for him. But im afraid hell only play a few games early then nothin. With key injurys this pre season its making this position hard to fill.
Also im going for a poll here: bewick of polec? I need a brissy player and think there rookies could see some footy. Do i need to bite the bullet and spend that extra 40k.
“…Similar things will happen with Bachelor at Richmond (replacing Moore) & Mitch Brown at Geelong (replacing Podsiadly). There will likely be other scenarios too… These are all traps”
thanks for the info tobby, do you recon you guys good do a article about the rookie traps.
Moo, personally i am of the opinion that Bewick is the better buy – much cheaper, as well as being in a team with SO many open spots. The Lions lost Rischitelli, Sherman and Brennan from there 2010 midfield, so there is three big holes to fill! The likes of Polec, Bewick and Beams will be given first shot at these! Conca though is still a good buy, but with less senior experience (Bewick has been in the WAFL for a couple of years and is 22yo), and I reckon Richmond will want to give him plenty of games this year – he has been playing off half-back this pre-season, and him doing so will release Deledio into the midfield – certainly something Hardwick wants!
I think you could win with either one, but personally I will be going with Bewick. Think he will be in far less teams too!
Moo, i preaty sure thay viv is still on the rookie list so its very unlikly that he will get a game. as for darling i think he should get a game as long as he keeps himself in the eagles good books and he should score ok for a rookie i have him locked in.
also i would take Bewick over Polec for now i have a feeling that polec may be injured missing those last few preseason matches.
Maanco, without promises, I will try. Certainly when the teams are announced Thursday night I will be highlighting the important players, as well as making a point on who is perhaps just a short-term gap filler. Or a ‘trap’ as I called them.
As I said earlier, one of the biggest mistakes many made last year was trading either Rockliff or Pods for Relton Roberts before round one, just because they weren’t named first up. The moral of the story is to still to your guns!
Cheers for the heads up maanco, ill have to let my mate know who talked him up to me so you saved 2 DTers.
And toby, great to hear, the money I save on polek is going to upgrade prestia to Bennell me thinks.
sounds good, thanks toby
i was one of the people that started rd 1 with both pods and rocky in what you could say was my frist full year of DT. too bad i was newby and trade them out eailer than i should have.
Any of the FT “regulars” keen to be in a DT league this year?
Ie. Murph, eebzzub, Juzz, LeatherHed, etc?
Let me know and I’ll set one up.
Cheers..
yer sounds good wilson. i created one a while ago but its full now but it would be good to join a new one.
Moo, im not entirely sure, its just a hunch
I’d be in Wilson. What’s the code?
my leagues are full! :S
Haven’t created one yet, just gauging a feel for how many people would want in. I know it’s late notice, I just thought it would be fun… to beat you all ;)
there is the footytragic group.
I’d be keen for a league. Although, yes, there is certainly the FT group.
Bit off topic but you guys got another show in the works????? The others a bit outdated hey ;)
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